Legislature(2009 - 2010)HOUSE FINANCE 519

02/22/2010 01:30 PM FINANCE


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01:38:33 PM Start
01:38:40 PM HB325 || HB326
04:00:53 PM Adjourn
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+= HB 325 APPROP: DEFERRED MAINTENANCE/REPLACEMENT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 326 SUPPLEMENTAL/CAPITAL/OTHER APPROPRIATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 325                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act  making  capital  appropriations  for  deferred                                                                   
     maintenance   projects,   equipment   replacement,   and                                                                   
     emergency  repairs;  and   providing  for  an  effective                                                                   
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 326                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act  making  supplemental  appropriations,  capital                                                                   
     appropriations,   and  other  appropriations;   amending                                                                   
     appropriations;    repealing   appropriations;    making                                                                   
     appropriations  to capitalize  funds; and providing  for                                                                   
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:38:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES  ARMSTRONG,  STAFF,  CO-CHAIR  STOLTZE,  explained  the                                                                   
handouts for the committee (FY2010  Supplemental Requests, HB
326,   pages  1-24;   Governor's   FY2010  Capital   Deferred                                                                   
Maintenance Supplemental Budget  HB 325/SB 253 Amendments; FY                                                                   
2010  Supplemental  Deferred Maintenance  Funding  HB  325/SB
253, pages 1-38, copies on file).                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
KAREN  REHFELD, DIRECTOR,  OFFICE OF  MANAGEMENT AND  BUDGET,                                                                   
OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR, addressed  several committee concerns                                                                   
about deferred projects. She defined  deferred maintenance as                                                                   
those   items  for   renovation   or  repair   for   existing                                                                   
facilities,  not  new construction.  She  added  that to  the                                                                   
extent  possible  the funds  should  be contracted  out.  The                                                                   
governor's  goal would  be to  repair  and renovate  existing                                                                   
assets and to get  the funding on the street  to provide jobs                                                                   
in  the  small  and  mid-range  construction  companies.  She                                                                   
continued  that  the  proposed  projects to  be  funded  were                                                                   
incorporated in  the backup materials  of the  amended budget                                                                   
and the 38 page spreadsheet that  lists the proposed projects                                                                   
within each department. She explained  that those departments                                                                   
that have not had the opportunity  to testify would be first.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld began  with the first handout and  noted that the                                                                   
Department  of Fish and  Game and  the Department of  Natural                                                                   
Resources   made   specific  amendments   in   the   deferred                                                                   
maintenance  package. The  Department  of Fish  and Game  had                                                                   
original   requests  that   included   the  replacement   and                                                                   
construction  of housing,  but these items  have been  backed                                                                   
out and the  money reallocated into very specific  items. Ms.                                                                   
Rehfeld reported  that the new allocations  included upgrades                                                                   
and/or  repairs   to  the   Kodiak  Warehouse/Compound,   the                                                                   
Fairbanks  Regional Office,  and  the Yakutat  Compound.  She                                                                   
added there  were also  new allocations  for upgrades  to the                                                                   
statewide  boiler   and  heating  systems  and   repairs  and                                                                   
upgrades   to  statewide   access   parking,  drainage,   and                                                                   
statewide bunkhouses.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:45:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Thomas  inquired   who   was   liable  for   the                                                                   
maintenance  on the hatcheries  that the  Department  of Fish                                                                   
and Game turned over to the regional  nonprofits. Ms. Rehfeld                                                                   
responded   that  she   would   research   and  provide   the                                                                   
information to Vice-Chair Thomas.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  asked if these were the  only changes to                                                                   
deferred maintenance. Ms. Rehfeld  agreed that these were the                                                                   
only changes in  the actual bill, but some of  the backup had                                                                   
been updated.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  reiterated his earlier concern  that too                                                                   
much was being spent on housing,  the sausage making machine,                                                                   
and other  items. He  noted that  the governor removed  those                                                                   
items, but  added new  projects equaling  the same  amount of                                                                   
money.  He  wondered   why  these  new  projects   should  be                                                                   
considered by  the committee. Ms. Rehfeld responded  that the                                                                   
amendments  were   designed  to  clarify  that   the  funding                                                                   
available  would  be  used  for   repair  and  renovation  of                                                                   
existing facilities,  not for  new construction  or equipment                                                                   
replacement.  It was  not the  intention of  the governor  to                                                                   
reduce the $100 million maintenance request.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  commented that the charge  was to remove                                                                   
those items that were not priorities, not add new projects.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:48:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze asked Ms. Rehfeld  if these requests were in                                                                   
line with the  governor's $100 million spending  for the next                                                                   
five  years.  Ms.  Rehfeld  explained   that  the  governor's                                                                   
overall goal was  to put forward a list of  projects to catch                                                                   
up with the deferred maintenance on existing facilities.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  reported  that  the  Mt.  McKinley  Meat  Plant                                                                   
equipment   replacement  from   the  Department  of   Natural                                                                   
Resources was  removed and the money reallocated  to deferred                                                                   
maintenance needs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld cited  the  five remaining  department  deferred                                                                   
maintenance requests.  She presented the order  starting with                                                                   
the Department of Corrections,  followed by the Department of                                                                   
Military  &  Veterans  Affairs,   the  Department  of  Public                                                                   
Safety,   the   Court   System,   and   the   Department   of                                                                   
Transportation  & Public Facilities.  She referred to  the 38                                                                   
page  spreadsheet  handout  (FY  2010  Supplemental  Deferred                                                                   
Maintenance  Funding  SB  253/HB  325, pages  1-38,  copy  on                                                                   
file).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:51:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman  referred to the  earlier Department                                                                   
of Natural  Resources. He asked  for clarification  where the                                                                   
deleted  $190,000  allocation  shows up  again.  Ms.  Rehfeld                                                                   
proposed to add  the $190,000 to the plant  material center's                                                                   
deferred maintenance.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:52:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LESLIE   HOUSTON,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                   
SERVICES,   DEPARTMENT  OF  CORRECTIONS,   referred   to  the                                                                   
department's  requests  listed on  page  5,  lines 1-11.  She                                                                   
explained each  of the eleven  requested items  totaling $6.5                                                                   
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Houston listed  the  first three  items  located at  the                                                                   
Anvil  Mountain Correctional  Center  in  Nome. The  projects                                                                   
include replacing the security  control station, constructing                                                                   
a new utilidor  and replacing the failing septic  tank at the                                                                   
waste water  treatment plant. The Palmer  Correctional Center                                                                   
project,  line 4,  consists of  replacing the  fire pump  and                                                                   
fixing the sprinkler piping.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  interjected that  line 4, Palmer  location,                                                                   
should read Election District 12 instead of 13.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Houston  indicated  that   in  Kenai,  line  5,  it  was                                                                   
necessary to  replace the roofing  system at Building  #55 at                                                                   
the  Wildwood Correctional  Center.  She  continued that  the                                                                   
Spring Creek Correctional  Facility in Seward,  line 6, would                                                                   
analyze the  security control system and  perimeter security.                                                                   
The Ketchikan  Correctional facility,  line 7  and 8,  is for                                                                   
analysis,   design,  and   construction   of  the   perimeter                                                                   
lighting.  At the  Palmer Correctional  Center,  line 9,  the                                                                   
project  is to  replace  obsolete fire  alarm  panels in  the                                                                   
medical,  administration,  warehouse   and  maintenance  shop                                                                   
buildings.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  mentioned that at a town  meeting there was                                                                   
discussion  regarding  the  inadequacy  of the  facility.  He                                                                   
asked if there had been any discussion  regarding the medical                                                                   
portion of the facility.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:00:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Houston replied  that  there  is a  maintenance  upgrade                                                                   
need, but it is not in the top eleven priorities this year.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara inquired what  would happen if the design                                                                   
and installation  of outside  lighting, on  line 7 and  8 was                                                                   
not funded. He also asked if there  had been competitive bids                                                                   
on the project.  Ms. Huston replied that the  existing system                                                                   
is  not energy  efficient. She  indicated she  would have  to                                                                   
research the information concerning competitive bids.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara addressed  lines 7 and 8, again and noted                                                                   
that one of  reasons to utilize energy efficient  lighting is                                                                   
that the  savings tends to pay  back quickly. He  inquired if                                                                   
there had been  an analysis to see if this project  would pay                                                                   
for  itself quickly.  Ms. Huston  responded  that the  energy                                                                   
efficiency  will be  addressed  in the  initial analysis  and                                                                   
design;  the results  will not  be  known until  it has  been                                                                   
tried. Representative  Gara asked if $50,000 has  to be spent                                                                   
before it can be  determined if the project is  worth it. Ms.                                                                   
Huston responded yes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:03:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fairclough asked if  a safe method  was being                                                                   
used to  dispose of  the old lightening  systems. Ms.  Huston                                                                   
replied that she would research  methods used in other areas.                                                                   
Ms.   Rehfeld    interjected    that   the   Department    of                                                                   
Transportation could give better answer.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Huston  continued  on  line   10,  the  Hiland  Mountain                                                                   
Correctional  Center  in Eagle  River,  with  the request  to                                                                   
replace and expand the exterior freezer.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:05:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fairclough  asked if  the  Eagle River  fence                                                                   
replacement  was on  the list.  Ms. Huston  replied that  the                                                                   
fence  was on  the  list,  but it  could  not be  acted  upon                                                                   
because   of  unresolved   land   transfers.   Representative                                                                   
Fairclough asked  if there was  any funding for a  new fence.                                                                   
Ms. Huston replied no.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman remarked  that he was still having a                                                                   
problem   separating   capital   and   deferred   maintenance                                                                   
projects. He believed  the separation needs to  be cleared up                                                                   
in the future.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:08:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld  responded that  the system upgrade  replacements                                                                   
are important in  24 hour operations for life  safety issues.                                                                   
Representative Austerman argued  that he believed it would be                                                                   
just as important as a capital request.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly thought  it was  important to  know how                                                                   
determinations are made.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:10:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara  understood   the  need  for   deferred                                                                   
maintenance, but  he wanted to know what was  actually needed                                                                   
and what constitutes  a wish list. He requested,  in writing,                                                                   
more information on lines 7 and  8. He maintained that he had                                                                   
never heard of spending $50,000  to see if a lighting upgrade                                                                   
saves money. Ms. Huston indicated  she would follow up on his                                                                   
inquiry.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Houston reported the final  item on the list, line 11, at                                                                   
the Wildwood  Correctional Facility  in Kenai was  to replace                                                                   
the fire alarm system.                                                                                                          
Ms. Rehfeld  referred to the  Department of Correction's  two                                                                   
capital  supplemental  request  items  in HB  326.  (FY  2010                                                                   
Supplemental  Requests,  page  10-11, lines  58-59,  copy  on                                                                   
file).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Huston  continued with the  capital request of  a renewal                                                                   
and  replacement of  the  Hiland Mountain  Correction  Center                                                                   
fire alarm system. The housing  units I, II, and III have all                                                                   
experienced  complete  or  partial   failure  of  the  system                                                                   
requiring   immediate  replacement,   per   the  state   fire                                                                   
marshal's  office. The  failure to replace  the system  would                                                                   
require the relocation of 380 incarcerated women.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:15:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hawker  questioned the priority decisions.  He noted                                                                   
that HB 325 was supposed to be  the fast track capital budget                                                                   
with  immediate  deferred  maintenance  money  for  the  most                                                                   
pressing projects.  He asked  why the  freezer never  rose to                                                                   
the top  of the priority list  in a previous  capital budget.                                                                   
He  added that  the  department was  using  the slower  track                                                                   
capital  budget  for an  item  that  seemed critical  to  the                                                                   
Hiland Mountain  Correctional Center. He questioned  why this                                                                   
did  not make  the faster  track budget.  Ms. Huston  replied                                                                   
that it was put  in the capital requests because  the work is                                                                   
ongoing and  the capital request  replaces the  money already                                                                   
spent.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hawker recapped the value  of truth in budgeting. He                                                                   
stated it would have been better  to state that the money has                                                                   
been spent from another source  and now needs to be replaced.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld  contended that  there are  a number of  projects                                                                   
that departments needed to move  on quickly that had not been                                                                   
expected.  Co-Chair Hawker  reiterated  that  it should  have                                                                   
been disclosed in the public document.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:18:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  questioned if the supplemental  deferred                                                                   
maintenance  bill,  HB 325,  was  for projects  the  governor                                                                   
believed there  was a need  to be out  on the street  a month                                                                   
earlier  than  the  rest.  Ms.  Rehfeld  responded  that  the                                                                   
governor did not propose the deferred  maintenance bill as an                                                                   
emergency  bill.  He  wanted  to  get  the  approval  of  the                                                                   
legislature so  that the projects  could get started  and the                                                                   
contractors  could  be  employed   this  construction  season                                                                   
instead of waiting for a July 1 appropriation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara reiterated was  HB 325 was  for projects                                                                   
that  needed  approval  first  for  contracting  issues.  Ms.                                                                   
Rehfeld noted that the governor's  interest was to accelerate                                                                   
the funding  so that it would  not have to wait until  July 1                                                                   
effective date in  the FY 2011 capital bill.  The earlier the                                                                   
funding  is  approved,  the  earlier  the  funding  would  be                                                                   
available to  state agencies to  bid those contracts  and put                                                                   
people to work.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara remarked  that many  of the projects  do                                                                   
not seem like  emergency projects. Ms. Rehfeld  restated that                                                                   
these projects  are not  emergencies only  deferred from  the                                                                   
past. These projects will make  a difference in the long term                                                                   
function  of the facility.  The governor  wanted approval  of                                                                   
the funding in this current year to start this summer.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:22:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Huston  continued on Page  11, line 59, with  the renewal                                                                   
and replacement of the Fairbanks  Correctional Center heating                                                                   
system. This is a new project request.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze voiced his concern  about the early deferred                                                                   
maintenance  and  asked  if  earlier  effective  dates  would                                                                   
accomplish the governor's goals.  Ms. Rehfeld agreed it would                                                                   
meet the goals.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze reminded that  the end of session, April 18,                                                                   
is not  that far  away so there  could be  a May 1  effective                                                                   
date.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:24:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Doogan   voiced   his   concern   over   the                                                                   
supplemental  deferred   maintenance  bill,   a  supplemental                                                                   
capital budget and the regular  capital budget in the future.                                                                   
He  contended he  was  having  a hard  time  telling the  two                                                                   
supplemental documents  apart. He added  it was not  clear to                                                                   
him how  the projects should be  rated because it  looks like                                                                   
two capital budgets. He asked  if there is a way to tell them                                                                   
apart.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld  responded that there  are two bills  because the                                                                   
governor  had  initially proposed  the  deferred  maintenance                                                                   
$100  million five-year  plan  for  FY 2011.  His  goal of  a                                                                   
separate bill  was so that  it could  be acted upon  early to                                                                   
get the funding available before this construction season.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:29:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan  appreciated  her  comments,  but  the                                                                   
situation of  concern was that it  was hard to tell  what the                                                                   
most  important  projects  were  to  begin  with.  He  voiced                                                                   
concern that all the projects  seemed to be capital projects.                                                                   
He pointed  out the  list seemed  undifferentiated and  there                                                                   
needed to be a better way of determining what is important.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld continued  to  the  Department of  Military  and                                                                   
Veterans Affairs  on page  13 of  the spreadsheet.  She noted                                                                   
three  allocations for  $892,000 for  Army Guard  Facilities,                                                                   
$2.1 million for Armory Facilities  deferred maintenance, and                                                                   
$1 million for the Alaska Military Youth Academy.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:31:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN   COLLIGAN,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                                                                   
SERVICES,    MILITARY     AND    VETERANS     AFFAIRS    (via                                                                   
teleconference),  reviewed  the  three  groupings.  The  Army                                                                   
Guard  Facilities  projects  were   in  Fairbanks,  Kotzebue,                                                                   
Wasilla,  Nome,  Ft.  Richardson  and  Juneau.  Most  of  the                                                                   
projects  include repair  and  replacement of  items such  as                                                                   
boilers,  doors, roofing,  flooring  and  siding. The  second                                                                   
group, the armories,  has federal funding involved  with them                                                                   
and they are requesting the $2,108,000  of general funds with                                                                   
a  federal   match  of   $6.3  million.   These  repair   and                                                                   
maintenance  projects  are  located  in  Jewel  Lake,  Sitka,                                                                   
Kenai, and Ft. Richardson. The  final group is $1 million for                                                                   
the Alaska Military  Youth Academy to replace  insulation and                                                                   
windows, repair  restrooms, and  replace interior  fire rated                                                                   
doors.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:33:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN SPENCER,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC SAFETY,  referred to the  Department of                                                                   
Public Safety requests, page 17,  lines 1-5. He indicated the                                                                   
deferred maintenance  projects at  the hangers in  Anchorage,                                                                   
Bethel,  and  Kodiak. There  are  also  repairs and  work  in                                                                   
Fairbanks and  Ketchikan. The  Anchorage projects  consist of                                                                   
replacing the existing parking  apron, leveling the floor for                                                                   
safer  movement  of  aircraft,   and  replacing  windows.  He                                                                   
referred to  needs in  Fairbanks to replace  the air  fan and                                                                   
electrical  systems, add  insulation  above  the ceiling  and                                                                   
improve environmental controls.  He continued that the Kodiak                                                                   
hanger has existing  exterior metal rusting that  needs to be                                                                   
replaced and the  Ketchikan post needs added  insulation. Mr.                                                                   
Spencer interjected  that it is expensive to  design projects                                                                   
and  have experts  evaluate the  department's facilities.  He                                                                   
added that he  cannot go to bid without an  appropriation and                                                                   
the  prospect of  moving  forward with  the  work is  limited                                                                   
without the  reasonable expectation  of receiving  the money.                                                                   
There is some  liability involved if they go  through the bid                                                                   
process than  not receive the  funds. Mr. Spencer  emphasized                                                                   
that  priority projects  can  change quickly  as  emergencies                                                                   
happen and what  may be deferred today can  become a priority                                                                   
tomorrow. He  emphasized the  five listed projects  reflected                                                                   
work that  can be  put out  to bid immediately  to start  the                                                                   
work.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:40:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS  CHRISTENSEN,  DEPUTY ADMINISTRATIVE  DIRECTOR,  ALASKA                                                                   
COURT SYSTEM  (via teleconference), referred to  the original                                                                   
list of nine projects in need  of maintenance funds (Deferred                                                                   
Maintenance Projects  List, Court, copy on file).  He defined                                                                   
deferred maintenance  as ordinary  maintenance that  has been                                                                   
deferred  due to  lack  of funding  or  attention beyond  the                                                                   
expected  useful  life  of  a  building  system  or  building                                                                   
component. He noted  that in the FY2011 Capital  Budget lists                                                                   
non-deferred  maintenance items  are  for things  approaching                                                                   
the  end of  their expected  useful  life, but  have not  yet                                                                   
exceeded  it.  He  indicated that  the  Ketchikan  Court  and                                                                   
Office  Building need  to replace  a  failing manual  control                                                                   
system  and   the  heating/cooling  system.  It   also  needs                                                                   
replacement  of deteriorating  finishes, damaged ceiling  and                                                                   
dim  light  fixtures.  Mr.  Christensen  continued  with  the                                                                   
deferred   maintenance   needs   of   the   Anchorage   Boney                                                                   
Courthouse.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Doogan  noted that the $5 million  request for                                                                   
deferred  maintenance  was for  buildings  not  owned by  the                                                                   
courts. Mr.  Christensen responded that the  original request                                                                   
was for  $14,932,000 for buildings  not owned by  the courts,                                                                   
but all that has been inserted is $2.5 million.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan   inquired  if  the   Ketchikan  Court                                                                   
Building received  the money requested, would  the courts run                                                                   
the project or would it be given  to someone else to run. Mr.                                                                   
Christensen replied  that those projects done  exclusively in                                                                   
court space  would be  done by  the courts.  The rest  of the                                                                   
building  would be  a cooperative  agreement  with the  other                                                                   
tenants.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:47:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hawker  asked if the occupancy leases  specified who                                                                   
was responsible  for repair and maintenance.  Mr. Christensen                                                                   
replied  that the  courts occupy  44 buildings  and own  six.                                                                   
Most of  the buildings  are private  lease buildings  and the                                                                   
leases specify  who is responsible  for maintenance.  None of                                                                   
the deferred  maintenance money  in the master  list actually                                                                   
goes to anything  other than state owned  buildings. Co-Chair                                                                   
Hawker  questioned if  the $14.9  million was  on the  master                                                                   
list. He  queried if this does  not contradict the  answer to                                                                   
Representative  Doogan. Mr. Christensen  clarified  that none                                                                   
of the  money is being  put into buildings  not owned  by the                                                                   
state of Alaska.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:49:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRANK  RICHARDS,  DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER,   HIGHWAYS  &  PUBLIC                                                                   
FACILITIES,   DEPARTMENT   OF   TRANSPORTATION   AND   PUBLIC                                                                   
FACILITIES,  identified   page  18   as  the  start   of  the                                                                   
department's deferred  maintenance needs. He stated  that the                                                                   
allocation  to  the  Department   of  Transportation  is  $25                                                                   
million divided into 193 projects.  Sub allocations were made                                                                   
for  the  various  deferred  maintenance   needs  within  the                                                                   
department  for aviation  facilities,  harbors, highways  and                                                                   
the marine highway. Mr. Richards  continued that when looking                                                                   
at the  infrastructure the projects  were grouped  into brush                                                                   
cutting, gravel  repair and  replacement, signals  and signs,                                                                   
safety  related  items,  and drainage  issues.  The  aviation                                                                   
identified  needs were  life  safety issues,  gravel  surface                                                                   
repairs, fencing  and gates,  drainage improvements,  asphalt                                                                   
repairs, electrical  repairs, and vegetation  management. The                                                                   
primary needs  in the  marine highway  system, were  for fire                                                                   
protection and  prevention, emergency response,  and SOLAS in                                                                   
the older vessels.  SOLAS is listed on page 21  and refers to                                                                   
Safety  of Life  At Sea,  an international  safety code  that                                                                   
must   be  complied   with   because  the   vessels   transit                                                                   
international waters.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stoltze inquired  if there  was a  reason that  the                                                                   
allocations were broken down the  way they were. Commissioner                                                                   
Richards responded  that the department wanted  to break down                                                                   
the maintenance needs by individual vessels.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards continued  that on the marine highway,  the work                                                                   
efforts are contracted out. He  reported that on the aviation                                                                   
side, there is a combination of  contracted efforts and state                                                                   
forces.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:53:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards moved to the facilities  deferred maintenance on                                                                   
the  700+  buildings  that  are  the  responsibility  of  the                                                                   
Department  of  Transportation.  He  noted  on  page  27  the                                                                   
prioritized  12  projects.  The  work will  primarily  be  on                                                                   
elevator   upgrades,  roofs,   heating  systems  repair   and                                                                   
replacement,  power  generation  at  remote  facilities,  and                                                                   
hoist replacement.  He remarked  that the harbor  maintenance                                                                   
work  on  page  28  consisted  on the  inner  float  at  Port                                                                   
Alexander.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards  explained that  the  largest need  within  the                                                                   
department  was on  the  highways. He  noted  that the  major                                                                   
areas,  starting  on  page 28,  were  vegetation  management;                                                                   
gravel  surfacing,   asphalt  surface,  guard   rail  repair,                                                                   
traffic  signals  and  signs, bridge  maintenance,  and  high                                                                   
tower repairs. The focus of the  department's efforts will be                                                                   
a  combination  of contracting  efforts  and  in-house  state                                                                   
forces, although approximately  80 percent will be contracted                                                                   
out. He  added that in  the rural system,  the benefit  of an                                                                   
earlier  appropriation  is procuring  materials  and get  the                                                                   
contracts underway to achieve  a summer of 2010 work product.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:56:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze  asked for  the latest  spring date  that an                                                                   
appropriation would  be effective for early  contracting. Mr.                                                                   
Richards replied  March or April. Co-Chair Stoltze  asked for                                                                   
a follow  up on a more  specific date. Mr.  Richards reported                                                                   
that the earlier the better particularly in rural areas                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Salmon described the  Taylor Highway  near 40                                                                   
Mile as one of the worst highways  in the world. Mr. Richards                                                                   
asked  if he was  referring to  the highway  just outside  of                                                                   
Chicken. Representative Salmon  replied the area close to 40-                                                                   
mile. Mr.  Richards referred  to page  29, priority  number 1                                                                   
that  lists  gravel  surface  stabilization  on  the  Steese,                                                                   
Denali,  and  Taylor Highways.  Representative  Salmon  asked                                                                   
when the area would be repaired.  Mr. Richards responded that                                                                   
it has been a challenge to maintain  these areas in the past,                                                                   
but he  was not  sure on  the specific  work planned  for the                                                                   
area, but would research and provide an answer.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:00:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fairclough  asked why  on  page  32, line  3,                                                                   
under  traffic signs  and signals  the  costs have  increased                                                                   
sevenfold.   Mr.  Richards   responded  there   has  been   a                                                                   
significant  increase  in aluminum  sheeting  and  reflective                                                                   
materials placed on  the signs. One of the  challenges in the                                                                   
northern climates is the deterioration  of sign sheeting with                                                                   
the ultraviolet  light.  Representative Fairclough  mentioned                                                                   
that the  price of steel  has been cut  in half and  asked if                                                                   
aluminum was not  falling into this same trend.  Mr. Richards                                                                   
responded   that   he   did  not   have   that   information.                                                                   
Representative Fairclough  asked if the department  knew what                                                                   
California was using. Mr. Richards  responded that California                                                                   
is also going to the new sheeting.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Austerman noticed  that about  80 percent  of                                                                   
the marine highway projects seemed  to refer to the Taku. Mr.                                                                   
Richards responded  that all the  ships go into dry  dock for                                                                   
annual  refurbishment, but  the Taku  has significant  issues                                                                   
with the SOLAS.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman  asked why the cracks  in roads were                                                                   
only attended  to every  four years.  Mr. Richards  responded                                                                   
there are  two crews, one in  the peninsula district  and the                                                                   
Matsu district.  The crack sealing  effort has  been deferred                                                                   
to federal highway funds. Representative  Austerman suggested                                                                   
a revaluation of the funding source  on how to make the roads                                                                   
last   longer.  Mr.   Richards   noted   that  the   deferred                                                                   
maintenance  list  refers  to  extensive  needs  for  highway                                                                   
repairs.  Representative  Austerman  asked where  the  Kodiak                                                                   
state parking  lot falls  in the  deferred maintenance  list.                                                                   
Mr. Richards  responded that  he would  have to look  through                                                                   
the lists in the regions to determine where it appears.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman interjected  that he wanted to know.                                                                   
Mr.  Richards answered  that if  there  was specific  capital                                                                   
budget designation for Kodiak  airport parking, then it would                                                                   
go to them.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:06:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld moved to supplemental  requests in HB 326 for the                                                                   
Department  of  Transportation,  page  11,  line  61  (FY2010                                                                   
Supplemental Requests, page 1-24, copy on file).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards referred  to the FY2010 supplemental  request on                                                                   
line  61 for  the  Alaska Marine  Highway  System Vessel  and                                                                   
Terminal overhaul  and rehabilitation.  This is necessary  to                                                                   
keep the vessels in compliance  with Coast Guard regulations.                                                                   
Co-Chair  Stoltze asked  if any  of  these was  in the  SOLIS                                                                   
category.  Mr.  Richards replied  it  was  for a  variety  of                                                                   
things including the SOLIS.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Thomas  asked if this  would be the place  to make                                                                   
an  amendment   regarding  the  road  ramp  at   the  Tenekee                                                                   
terminal. Mr.  Richards suggested  handling this  through the                                                                   
regular capital budget.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:10:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan asked  why $4  million more was  being                                                                   
requested  to work on  vessels. Mr.  Richards responded  that                                                                   
the level  of funding appropriated  last year was  $4 million                                                                   
shy of what is needed to keep the vessels operating.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:11:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards mentioned  that  on page  11, line  62 for  the                                                                   
airport improvement  program the  department is  seeking $5.2                                                                   
million  of federal  funds and  $15 million  in other  funds.                                                                   
Line 63 is for debt defeasance on international airports.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
LAURA BAKER,  DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT  OF   TRANSPORTATION,  explained  that   the  debt                                                                   
defeasance  is based on  a recommendation  from the  aviation                                                                   
bond council.  They have  an excess of  receipts that  can be                                                                   
applied to some  of their capital bonding balance  that would                                                                   
reduce debt in the future.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fairclough  noted   that  there  has  been  a                                                                   
request for  funding the  volcano observatory and  questioned                                                                   
the amount  of money  in the  international airport  revenue.                                                                   
Ms. Baker responded she would  need to get the balance to the                                                                   
committee,  but noted  that funding  the volcano  observatory                                                                   
would be in non compliance to federal regulations.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:13:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fairclough  asked  for  the landing  fees  at                                                                   
international airports compared  to other landing fees across                                                                   
the country.  Ms. Baker stated  the department would  need to                                                                   
follow  up.  Representative  Fairclough  asked if  Ms.  Baker                                                                   
could guess if  it was lower or higher. Ms.  Baker stated she                                                                   
could not. Mr.  Richard answered that landing  fees are lower                                                                   
than  other  airports  in the  United  State.  Representative                                                                   
Fairclough asked  if it would  be fair  to say the  fees were                                                                   
some  of the  lowest in  the nation.  Mr. Richards  responded                                                                   
that he was not sure.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards  continued  with   line  64,  the  request  for                                                                   
legislative authority to receive  and expend federal aviation                                                                   
funds for Gustavus Airport for  runway safety and line 65 for                                                                   
the King Cove fencing project.  Mr. Richards moved to line 66                                                                   
for the  Kodiak Chemical  Storage building,  line 67  for the                                                                   
Nulatot  Airport improvements  and line  68 for the  Unalaska                                                                   
Chemical Storage building.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fairclough asked if  these were tied  in with                                                                   
other  project  improvements  for local  airports  from  last                                                                   
session's  American  Recovery  and  Reinvestment  Act  (ARRA)                                                                   
funding. Mr. Richards replied  that the projects appropriated                                                                   
for the ARRA  funding were specific. Originally  the plan was                                                                   
to  use airport  improvement funds  for  those projects,  but                                                                   
since  they were ready  to go  out to  contract for  bidding,                                                                   
authority  was  received from  the  legislature  to use  ARRA                                                                   
funds instead.  Representative Fairclough  asked if  this was                                                                   
for  some  of the  same  the  airports  receiving  additional                                                                   
funding.  Mr. Richards  recalled  that ARRA  funding went  to                                                                   
Anchorage,  Fairbanks,  Quzinkie,   Akuchak,  Merrill  Field,                                                                   
Kenai, but not Gustavus, King Cove or Unalaska.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:17:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Doogan  questioned line 62 that  increases the                                                                   
appropriation  to $20 million,  but line  63 wants  to defeat                                                                   
debt in  the amount of  $15 million.  He asked if  these were                                                                   
linked  in any  way. Ms.  Baker  said the  $15 million  could                                                                   
stand alone, but the proposals  were grouped as they were all                                                                   
aviation related.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan asked why  there was $20  million more                                                                   
in  appropriation.  Ms.  Baker  responded  that  of  the  $20                                                                   
million, $15  million is the  debt defeasance request  to pay                                                                   
down  the bonds  for previous  aviation work.  Representative                                                                   
Doogan asked what  happens to rest of money that  is not part                                                                   
of  the debt.  Ms. Baker  replied  that the  money is  direct                                                                   
federal   funding    receipts   coming   in    for   aviation                                                                   
transportation from federal aviation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan  reiterated the  question  of what  it                                                                   
will be used for. Ms. Baker answered  it was for the previous                                                                   
projects that Mr. Richards listed.  Mr. Richards repeated for                                                                   
the  Gustavus  Airport  runway   safety,  King  Cove  airport                                                                   
fencing and Kodiak Chemical storage building.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:20:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara referred  to line 63  and asked  if they                                                                   
were raising  or changing the  rates and fees  structure. Ms.                                                                   
Baker  responded the  department has  held back  some of  the                                                                   
fees  being charged  due to  the economic  situation to  make                                                                   
sure air carriers  still come into the airports  at Anchorage                                                                   
and  Fairbanks. The  expenditures could  be used  to not  pay                                                                   
down the debt,  but then there would be the  need to increase                                                                   
the fees to carriers to pay down the debt.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  noted that it seems like  a major policy                                                                   
decision  was being made.  He needed  further information  on                                                                   
how this decision  was made and  if it is the right  one. Ms.                                                                   
Baker  needed   to  follow  up   later  with   more  detailed                                                                   
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:22:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fairclough   understood  that  this   is  not                                                                   
general  funds   dollars,  but  an  appropriation   that  the                                                                   
legislature has  control of making.  The airports  are linked                                                                   
together with  Fairbanks as a backup landing  destination and                                                                   
so the group has gotten together  although there is about $15                                                                   
million  in the fund  that could  pay down  their debt  which                                                                   
would reduce  the fees.  The state does  not set  the landing                                                                   
fees, but the board that operates  this particular fund which                                                                   
consists  of  the  carriers  and the  state  of  Alaska.  Mr.                                                                   
Richards  responded that  it is the  signatory carriers  that                                                                   
have signed  onto the  international operating agreement.  It                                                                   
was agreed last  fall that the carriers paying  the rates and                                                                   
fees look  to see  the amount  previously collected  and then                                                                   
look for ways  to reduce the future expenses,  such as paying                                                                   
down the bond debt.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:24:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Doogan asked how  the federal funds are linked                                                                   
to this  appropriation. Ms. Baker  responded that she  is not                                                                   
aware that  they are  linked. Mr.  Richards interjected  that                                                                   
they  are  not  linked.  There  is  the  airport  improvement                                                                   
program  funded by  the FAA for  lower airports.  It is  just                                                                   
identified as  a capital need  under the appropriation  level                                                                   
on a common line 62.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan asked  if  this is  separate types  of                                                                   
money, one  from federal  government and  the other  from air                                                                   
carriers,  why are  lumped  together on  a  single line.  Ms.                                                                   
Baker noted  it was  grouped together  because it dealt  with                                                                   
aviation  issues. It  could be  separated  out as  it is  not                                                                   
linked to the federal requests.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan noted  that  if they  were linked  the                                                                   
money could  not be spent on  airports such as  Gustavus. Mr.                                                                   
Richards responded  that revenues collected in  Anchorage and                                                                   
Fairbanks must to be spent at those two airports.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Doogan responded  that he  just wanted  to be                                                                   
confident  two  kinds of  money  were  not being  mixed.  Mr.                                                                   
Richard responded that the money was not being mixed.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:28:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stoltze asked how much  money goes from Fairbanks to                                                                   
Anchorage  on  the  airport  international  arrangement.  Mr.                                                                   
Richards stated  he would have  to get back to  the committee                                                                   
with those numbers.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Salmon  noted on page  13, line 68,  it states                                                                   
that  this is  a new  project  request for  FY2010. He  asked                                                                   
where these new  projects came from and why are  many of them                                                                   
marked  as emergencies.  He wondered why  the Taylor  Highway                                                                   
cannot be listed under an emergency item.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards  responded  that   specifically  from  line  65                                                                   
through line 68 these are capital  projects under development                                                                   
phases. These  projects are ready  to go out to  contract and                                                                   
need legislative authority to  move forward. Starting on line                                                                   
69 through line 79, this is an  area of emergency repairs for                                                                   
specific actions such as from  floods, erosion, or ice damage                                                                   
that occurred during  or after the start of  the fiscal year.                                                                   
These  needs were  above and  beyond  the approved  operating                                                                   
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Salmon  asked again why the Taylor  Highway is                                                                   
not  considered  an emergency.  Mr.  Richard  responded  that                                                                   
emergency repairs  have not been  done on the  Taylor Highway                                                                   
that would  require them to come  back to the  legislature to                                                                   
seek supplemental funds to cover any emergency repair work.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:32:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Fairclough asked  for clarification on line 62                                                                   
for $5,257,000  and asked if inside this  appropriation level                                                                   
it was  at the  discretion of  the department  to move  those                                                                   
funds around.  Mr. Richards  responded  that they would  have                                                                   
legislative authority if needed  to move the funds to an area                                                                   
of greater need.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Austerman asked  for  the total  cost of  the                                                                   
Kodiak Chemical  Storage building. Mr. Richards  replied $1.3                                                                   
million.  Representative   Austerman  noticed  that   in  the                                                                   
capital list  from last year there  was $1.2 million  for the                                                                   
same project.  Mr. Richards  reported that  he would  need to                                                                   
investigate if there was previous  legislative authority that                                                                   
now totals $2.5 million.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:35:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards referenced  on page 13, line 69,  the $7,356,000                                                                   
represents  the  projects  identified starting  on  line  70.                                                                   
These  were  activities  that   were  undertaken  because  of                                                                   
circumstances after  the fiscal year. In particular,  line 70                                                                   
on high  tower repairs.   On line 71,  the Dyea  Road washout                                                                   
repair was  for erosion that  occurred along the  Taiya River                                                                   
that  arose  suddenly.  Mr.  Richards   named  other  erosion                                                                   
projects  on the  Glenn Highway  line 72  and line  73, as  a                                                                   
Glenn Highway slide and dam failure.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  listed the emergency  repairs needed  from line                                                                   
74 through  79 in Haines  Highway, Kodiak, Petersville  road,                                                                   
Salmon  River  road,  Seward   airport  and  Whittier  access                                                                   
repairs. The  Whittier Access  Emergency should read  400,000                                                                   
cubic yards of rock instead of the 40,000 written.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:41:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stoltze  commended   the   crews  working   during                                                                   
emergency situations.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  referred back to  line 46, for the  legal costs                                                                   
relating to  the Nikishka Beach  Road Case. This  was entered                                                                   
into  with Offshore  Systems Kenai  for obstruction,  control                                                                   
and  closure of  public access  to and  through the  Nikishka                                                                   
Beach road.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:42:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards moved  to  line 80,  for  the appropriation  of                                                                   
$3,021,100 for  highways and facilities.   On line 81  is the                                                                   
Coffman Cove Maintenance Station  a project for a maintenance                                                                   
station to maintain that part of the road.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Doogan  asked for the original  appropriation.                                                                   
Mr. Richard responded it was $900,000.  Representative Doogan                                                                   
asked if  the department  was 100  percent off. Mr.  Richards                                                                   
responded that  is correct. At  the time it was  believed the                                                                   
land  would  not  have  to  be  purchased,  but  the  present                                                                   
necessary  land purchase  has presented  an unexpected  cost.                                                                   
The building  cost construction was also  off. Representative                                                                   
Doogan  responded that  a lot  of backup would  be needed  to                                                                   
prove the department was off by 100 percent.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  continued to line  82, the Ester  Weigh Station                                                                   
scale replacement  and line 83,  for the Klawock  Maintenance                                                                   
station door replacement. Line  84, measurement standards and                                                                   
commercial  vehicle  enforcement equipment  replacement  and,                                                                   
line  85,   for  the   retroactive  asphalt  material   price                                                                   
adjustment. Mr.  Richards indicated that asphalt  prices have                                                                   
skyrocketed and  this contact did  not have an  asphalt price                                                                   
escalator. He indicated that line  86 was to purchase land in                                                                   
Skagway where the Skagway maintenance station is situated.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Salmon asked  what  the land  on  line 86  is                                                                   
being  used  for. Mr.  Richards  responded  it is  where  the                                                                   
maintenance station is located.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Richards noted  on  line  87 a  long standing  need  for                                                                   
elevator installation  for the second floor  of the Southeast                                                                   
region  headquarters.   Co-Chair  Stoltze  asked   where  the                                                                   
Southeast regional  headquarters was. Mr.  Richards responded                                                                   
in Juneau  at 7  mile Glacier  Highway. Representative  Kelly                                                                   
asked  how many  people work  on second  floor. Mr.  Richards                                                                   
responded that the  majority of the employees  work on second                                                                   
floor.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:50:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards  noted that  line 88  for state equipment  fleet                                                                   
vehicle lifts in Haines was a safety related issue.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Fairclough queried  if there are challenges in                                                                   
disposing old  lightening, especially  in regard  to mercury,                                                                   
as  new   bulb  replacements   are  upgraded.  Mr.   Richards                                                                   
responded that he will get back to her.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara  noted  that   he  had  met   with  the                                                                   
department  on  the  rumble strip  issue  in  certain  safety                                                                   
corridors. He noted  that most head on collisions  are caused                                                                   
by inattentiveness.  He wanted to know what it  would cost to                                                                   
put rumble  strips in more high  traffic areas than  just the                                                                   
highway safety corridors. He noted  several attempts, without                                                                   
success, to get  an answer from the department.  Mr. Richards                                                                   
responded  that  $850,000  to  install  the  shoulder  rumble                                                                   
strips on  the remaining  76.7 miles  of highway eligible  to                                                                   
receive  rumble  strips.  There   may  be  a  need  on  other                                                                   
highways, but if  there is no shoulder for  the rumble strip,                                                                   
than it is not  possible. He indicated that he  would be able                                                                   
to present a map where these areas can be shown.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  asked for information outside  the areas                                                                   
that the Department of Transportation  thought was important.                                                                   
Mr.  Richards   responded  that  the  department   wanted  to                                                                   
investigate those areas and challenges.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:55:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Austerman expressed  his curiosity  regarding                                                                   
the purchase of for $900,000 in  Coffman Cove and the Skagway                                                                   
land purchase. He  asked if the money just  covered the land.                                                                   
Mr. Richards  responded  no. He  was not sure  of the  actual                                                                   
acreage,  but the  land  would be  used  for the  maintenance                                                                   
center and other storage.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Richards moved to line 89,  for the regulatory compliance                                                                   
appropriation  level of  $1.7 million  and line  90, for  the                                                                   
Kenai  Peninsula  Watershed  Improvements   Clean  Water  Act                                                                   
Settlement.  The department  is seeking  $900,000 for  a non-                                                                   
profit  to purchase  and  place conservation  easements  over                                                                   
properties  that  will  preserve  water  quality  and  salmon                                                                   
habitat. Co-Chair  Stoltze asked the name of  the non-profit.                                                                   
Mr. Richards  remarked that  he was not  sure, but  would get                                                                   
the information. He continued with line 91 and the re-                                                                          
vegetation   of  Anchor   River   and  Deep   Creek   Highway                                                                   
Embankments along three sites on the Sterling Highway.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:59:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Thomas asked  about the  19 mile  slide area  and                                                                   
wondered if  the EPA  was preventing  anything from  being if                                                                   
the  river was  doing naturally.  Mr.  Richards replied  that                                                                   
when  a natural  occurrence of  water and  debris flows  down                                                                   
drainage, it is considered a natural occurrence. When a man-                                                                    
made  object  is put  there  to  stop  it,  then this  is  an                                                                   
unnatural occurrence that can be moved off site.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:00:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  concluded  that   this  covered  the  remaining                                                                   
agencies that were not able to present at the last meeting.                                                                     

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HB325 Deferred Maintenance Supplemental Amendments Submitted February 17 2010.pdf HFIN 2/22/2010 1:30:00 PM
HB 325
HB 326 Supplemental Amendments - February 17 2010.pdf HFIN 2/22/2010 1:30:00 PM
HB 326
HB 325 OMB Deferred Maintenance Spreadsheet Final 2-17.pdf HFIN 2/22/2010 1:30:00 PM
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