Legislature(2017 - 2018)HOUSE FINANCE 519

02/22/2017 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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Moved CSHB 24(FIN) Out of Committee
Moved HB 48 Out of Committee
Heard & Held
Heard & Held
+ Subcommittee Reports; Amendment Proposals as TELECONFERENCED
+ New Operating Budget Amendment System TELECONFERENCED
Presentation: by David Teal, Dir. Leg. Fin. Div.
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 48                                                                                                             
     "An Act relating to the  composition of the State Board                                                                    
     of  Registration for  Architects,  Engineers, and  Land                                                                    
     Surveyors; extending the termination  date of the State                                                                    
     Board  of Registration  for Architects,  Engineers, and                                                                    
     Land Surveyors; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
1:35:34 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  SAM KITO  III,  SPONSOR, introduced  himself                                                                    
and offered a potential conflict  of interest. He noted that                                                                    
he was currently a licensed  civil engineer and his practice                                                                    
of  engineering  was  governed  by the  board  HB  48  would                                                                    
extend. The bill would extend  the sunset on the Architects,                                                                    
Engineers and Land Surveyors (AELS)  Board. He detailed that                                                                    
since 1998 there had been  a landscape architect position on                                                                    
the  board  as a  non-voting  member.  The bill  recommended                                                                    
extending the  board in accordance with  the recommendations                                                                    
by  the  Division  of  Legislative Audit  and  to  make  the                                                                    
temporary non-voting  position a permanent  voting position.                                                                    
The  change would  mean the  number of  board members  would                                                                    
increase from  10 to 11,  but it merely recognized  that the                                                                    
temporary non-voting  member would become a  permanent board                                                                    
member.  The bill  did not  remove any  other representation                                                                    
from the board and it added  a landscape architect as a full                                                                    
voting  member.   The  bill  would  enable   the  individual                                                                    
representing landscape  architects to fully engage  in their                                                                    
position and  participate as a  voting member on  the board.                                                                    
Currently   the   individual   reviewed   applications   for                                                                    
landscape  architecture  in  the state  and  was  performing                                                                    
duties as  a full board  member with the exception  of being                                                                    
able to  vote. He relayed  that the Division  of Legislative                                                                    
Audit  and  individuals  from the  Department  of  Commerce,                                                                    
Community  and Economic  Development (DCCED)  were available                                                                    
to address the committee.                                                                                                       
1:38:30 PM                                                                                                                    
Representative  Thompson  asked  if there  was  a  statutory                                                                    
requirement for the board to meet in person.                                                                                    
Representative Kito replied  as far as he knew  there was no                                                                    
statutory  requirement, but  he deferred  to the  department                                                                    
for  verification. There  were opportunities  for telephonic                                                                    
meetings; however, applications  were typically presented in                                                                    
paper form  and reviewed in  person. He detailed  that board                                                                    
members  broke up  by licensing  division  and reviewed  the                                                                    
applications  for  the  director. He  concluded  there  were                                                                    
reasons for having the meetings in person.                                                                                      
Representative  Kawasaki  looked  at  the  fiscal  note  and                                                                    
remarked  that adding  the 11th  member did  not change  any                                                                    
travel  and per  diem. He  asked for  verification that  the                                                                    
individual had already been allowed  to claim travel and per                                                                    
diem as a non-voting member.                                                                                                    
Representative Kito  answered there  would be  no additional                                                                    
costs related to  the 11th member who  was already receiving                                                                    
financial  support for  travel  and per  diem.  There was  a                                                                    
recognition as  a sunset  that there would  be costs  to the                                                                    
board, but they were existing costs.                                                                                            
Representative  Kawasaki looked  at the  information in  the                                                                    
fiscal  note  from  Legislative  Audit  that  mentioned  the                                                                    
number of new registrations  of landscape architects existed                                                                    
over FY 13  to FY 15 -  he observed it looked  like only two                                                                    
or three.  He asked  how many licensed  landscape architects                                                                    
there were in Alaska.                                                                                                           
Representative Kito replied there were about 50.                                                                                
1:40:50 PM                                                                                                                    
KRIS  CURTIS,   LEGISLATIVE  AUDITOR,  ALASKA   DIVISION  OF                                                                    
LEGISLATIVE  AUDIT, relayed  the  division  had conducted  a                                                                    
sunset  audit with  the purpose  of determining  whether the                                                                    
board  was  serving the  public's  interest  and whether  it                                                                    
should  be extended.  Overall, the  division had  determined                                                                    
that  the  board  was  serving   the  public's  interest  by                                                                    
effectively    registering   and    regulating   architects,                                                                    
engineers,  land surveyors,  and  landscape architects.  The                                                                    
division recommended the  maximum eight-year board extension                                                                    
allowable  in   statute.  The  division  did   not  have  an                                                                    
additional   recommendation.  She   noted  that   the  audit                                                                    
included  some  information  that  may  be  helpful  as  the                                                                    
committee considered  the bill.  She referred  to page  7 of                                                                    
the audit  and pointed out that  the board had a  deficit in                                                                    
the  end of  FY 13  of approximately  $260,000 and  fees had                                                                    
been increased. At the end of  FY 15 the board had a surplus                                                                    
of  over  $740,000   at  which  point  the   fees  had  been                                                                    
decreased.  A schedule  of the  fees was  on page  8 of  the                                                                    
Ms.  Curtis continued  that the  audit also  addressed board                                                                    
composition.  A temporary,  non-voting  member position  had                                                                    
been created  in 1998  and authorized  in uncodified  law as                                                                    
temporary. The position did act  like a voting member in all                                                                    
regards except it  did not vote. The original  intent of the                                                                    
position was to assist the  board in drafting regulations in                                                                    
representing   the  landscape   architect  profession.   The                                                                    
division had interviewed seven board  members as part of the                                                                    
audit and  all had  been in support  of making  the position                                                                    
Co-Chair Seaton asked DCCED to address its fiscal note.                                                                         
1:43:17 PM                                                                                                                    
JANEY   HOVENDEN,   DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF   CORPORATIONS,                                                                    
BUSINESS   AND   PROFESSIONAL   LICENSING,   DEPARTMENT   OF                                                                    
COMMERCE, COMMUNITY AND  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, she explained                                                                    
the  bill did  not ask  for any  additional funding  for the                                                                    
board.  The note  included  funding to  allow  the board  to                                                                    
continue functioning.  There was  $27,800 for one  staff and                                                                    
eleven members  to travel to  four board meetings  per year,                                                                    
$200  for advertising  and public  notice, $1,000  for board                                                                    
member training  and conference  fees, $500  for honorariums                                                                    
and  stipends for  board meetings,  and $100  for commission                                                                    
sales  for the  booking of  board meetings.  The items  were                                                                    
paid  for  with  receipt   supported  services  provided  by                                                                    
Co-Chair Seaton OPENED public testimony.                                                                                        
MICHELE ELFERS, LANDSCAPE  ARCHITECT, ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC                                                                    
WORKS DEPARTMENT,  CITY OF JUNEAU,  spoke in support  of the                                                                    
legislation. She  shared that she  was also a member  of the                                                                    
Alaska Professional  Design Council - the  group represented                                                                    
architects,  engineers, landscape  surveyors, and  landscape                                                                    
architects  through   member  organization   throughout  the                                                                    
state. The board supported the  bill including the extension                                                                    
of the sunset  and the creation of a  permanent voting board                                                                    
seat for landscape architects.                                                                                                  
1:45:54 PM                                                                                                                    
COLIN  MAYNARD, BOARD  OF  ARCHITECTS,  ENGINEERS, AND  LAND                                                                    
SURVEYORS,  ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference),  testified  in                                                                    
support  of the  bill. The  board unanimously  approved with                                                                    
the bill  in its  entirety. He  detailed that  the landscape                                                                    
architect  board   member  represented  the  board   at  the                                                                    
National  Organization of  Landscape Architect  Registration                                                                    
Boards  and  provided  an  essential   part  of  the  AELS's                                                                    
mission. He did  not believe the board was  required to meet                                                                    
face-to-face; however,  in the  past there had  been efforts                                                                    
to teleconference,  but there had been  situations when some                                                                    
members could not hear very  well. Additionally, it was very                                                                    
hard to do an application  review when two board members had                                                                    
to review  and discuss an  application. The board  had found                                                                    
it was much easier to meet in person.                                                                                           
Co-Chair  Seaton  noted  Vice-Chair   Gara  had  joined  the                                                                    
Co-Chair Seaton CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                        
Vice-Chair Gara addressed the fiscal  note from DCCED. There                                                                    
was a  $29,600 cost in  FY 18  extending through FY  23. The                                                                    
costs would be paid with designated general funds.                                                                              
1:49:05 PM                                                                                                                    
Representative  Wilson   MOVED  to  REPORT  HB   48  out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal  note. There being NO  OBJECTION, it was                                                                    
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
HB  48  was REPORTED  out  of  committee  with a  "do  pass"                                                                    
recommendation  and  with  one previously  published  fiscal                                                                    
note: FN1 (CED).                                                                                                                
1:49:44 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
1:52:17 PM                                                                                                                    

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB024 Supporting Document-Support Letters CSAC 2.2.17.pdf HFIN 2/22/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 24
HB024 Supporting Document-Support Letters ABADA 2.2.17.PDF HFIN 2/22/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 24
HB024 Supporting Document-Support Letter AKDOL 2.1.17.pdf HFIN 2/22/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 24
HB024 Supporting Document-Support Letter AK HSS 2.2.17.pdf HFIN 2/22/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 24
HB024 Supporting Document-News Release DEA.Gov 2.2.17.PDF HFIN 2/22/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 24
HB024 Supporting Document-Article WSJ 2.2.17.PDF HFIN 2/22/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 24
HB 24 Sponsor Statement 2.2.17.pdf HFIN 2/22/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 24
HB024 Supporting Document-Article CBS News 2.2.17.PDF HFIN 2/22/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 24
HB024 Supporting Document-Article Drugs.com 2.2.17.PDF HFIN 2/22/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 24
HB048 Sponsor Statement 02.15.17.pdf HFIN 2/22/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 48
HB048 Supporting Documents - letters of support 02.15.17.pdf HFIN 2/22/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 48
HB048 Supporting Document - Sunset Audit 02.15.17.pdf HFIN 2/22/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 48
HB048 Sponsor Statement 02.15.17.pdf HFIN 2/22/2017 1:30:00 PM
HB 48