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04/15/2018 10:00 AM LABOR & COMMERCE
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HB 357-ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL/REGULATION 10:03:28 AM CHAIR KITO announced that the first order of business would be HOUSE BILL NO. 357, "An Act relating to alcoholic beverages; relating to the regulation of manufacturers, wholesalers, retailers, and common carriers of alcoholic beverages; relating to licenses, endorsements, and permits involving alcoholic beverages; relating to the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board; relating to offenses involving alcoholic beverages; amending Rule 17, Alaska Rules of Minor Offense Procedure; and providing for an effective date." CHAIR KITO stated the committee would continue to review the presentation from the previous hearing. 10:04:02 AM ANNA BRAWLEY, Project Coordinator for Title 4, continued the presentation of Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) Board, Title 4 from the previous hearing. She stated she would begin on slide 52 of the PowerPoint. She said the recommendation was to create endorsements, defined in the slide as follows: • Create endorsements as add-ons to licenses in Title 4 • Endorsements must be issued with a license, renewed biannually with the license, and cannot be transferred to a new location • Endorsements are not population limited • Convert some existing sections or activities into endorsements; create new endorsements MS. BRAWLEY briefly spoke to a list of proposed endorsements on slide 53. These would include bowling alleys, shipping endorsements for package stores, sampling, hotel/motel, large resort, and brewery repacking endorsements. MS. BRAWLEY elaborated on package store shipping endorsements on slide 54. • Allow orders under a Package Store Shipping endorsement to be received in formats other than a written order from a known customer. • This allows online ordering from in-state package stores, including customers in Local Option areas. • Existing requirements in AS 04.11.150(a) for ID, shipping and delivery still apply. Package stores would still be required to report all orders to Local Option areas in Written Order Database. MS. BRAWLEY addressed the endorsement for onsite product sampling for package stores in slide 55: • Create a separate endorsement to allow onsite sampling at Package Stores. • Limits volume per customer per day, hours of sampling, public advertising of sampling. • Providing free samples of products at package stores is a common practice in several other cities and states. MS. BRAWLEY progressed to slide 56 illustrating the allowable quantities and types of samples recommended in the endorsement. 10:07:59 AM MS. BRAWLEY spoke to the proposal to standardize permits on slide 57: • Define all permit types in statute, not just in regulation • Fee for all permits is $50 per event day • Most permits listed are already in statute or regulation • New permit: Tasting Event Permit, allowing a Package Store or Manufacturer to host an event on premises, in partnership with a BDL MS. BRAWLEY said slide 58 displays a list of proposed permits. She said that like endorsements, most exist in regulation already. The proposal is to reorganize them into one section. MS. BRAWLEY moved to slide 59 illustrating the new tasting event permit. She specified the permit would be separate from the sampling endorsement. She said it would allow a package store or manufacturer to work with a BDL to showcase the products they sell or manufacture. She said the permit includes a limit on the number of hours and specifies the entity must serve food at the event. 10:09:36 AM REPRESENTATIVE STUTES remarked that she found the sample sizes large. She asked how they were determined. MS. BRAWLEY answered the sample sizes are consistent with those proposed for manufacturing sampling. She specified that consumers would choose between wine and beer. REPRESENTATIVE STUTES asked for confirmation that the amounts are the same as for a tasting event. CHAIR KITO corrected that the size would be the same as the manufacturing sample. MS. BRAWLEY clarified there is a proposed manufacturers sampling endorsement, which is separate from manufacturers, to sell product onsite through a tasting room. 10:11:19 AM REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked for confirmation that free samples from the manufacturer are the same as for free samples from a package store. MS. BRAWLEY answered that is correct. REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked whether that is in addition to what a customer can buy onsite. MS. BRAWLEY answered that is correct. REPRESENTATIVE WOOL stated his agreement with the comments made by Representative Stutes regarding amounts. He spoke to the statement that a BDL can cater an event in a tasting room. He asked why that would be required. MS. BRAWLEY clarified the proposed tasting event permit allows manufactures to have the event on their production site and would not require an additional tasting room license. If a manufacturer does not have a tasting room, they can use the license to showcase their products without having a retail license. REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked whether a retail license is separate from a manufacturing license or is included within it. MS. BRAWLEY answered that currently all the manufacture retail activities are under the manufacture license. The proposal is for splitting them out so a manufacturer with a tasting room would have to have a production license and a tasting room license. 10:13:29 AM REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked whether an endorsement would be needed to sell single bottles of beer. MS. BRAWLEY answered in that affirmative. She said it's currently allowed in regulation. She said repackaging includes filling growlers and selling single bottles. REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked why a storeowner cannot take a bottle out of a box. MS. BRAWLEY shared her understanding that the current license doesn't allow subdivision of packages. She deferred to AMCO. 10:14:54 AM REPRESENTATIVE BIRCH asked whether the proposal would allow samples at Costco. MS. BRAWLEY answered it would if Costco opted to get this type of endorsement. 10:15:38 AM REPRESENTATIVE KNOPP commented it seems the interpretations for quantities for sampling were "getting really liberal." He asked why package stores would need sampling privileges. MS. BRAWLEY answered currently samples are allowed to be provided by manufacturers with no limit on size and there does seem to be a public safety consideration. She added that in terms of package store sampling, it does happen in other states. She stated a number of package store stakeholders are interested in offering samples. 10:17:18 AM CHAIR KITO asked about shipping alcohol and asked Ms. Brawley to describe the process of protecting communities who have opted out of allowing alcohol products. MS. BRAWLEY answered that in a local option area there are several local options, including the ability to order a product to be shipped in. She said other options prohibit importation or possession. She said that in current statute there are monthly limits to what a customer can order. She stated it would be up to the individual customer in an area to decide to participate. CHAIR KITO mentioned the database and asked whether it would identify the areas for shippers. MS. BRAWLEY answered in the affirmative. 10:18:52 AM REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON asked whether the database would also highlight an individual in a particular area. MS. BRAWLEY answered she was not sure. 10:19:25 AM REPRESENTATIVE CHUCK KOPP, Alaska State Legislature, presented HB 357 as prime sponsor. He answered that nothing in the proposed law does away with the requirement to positively identify the customer, so if there is a red strip on their license, a copy would be required. MS. BRAWLEY advanced to slide 61 regarding the proposal to improve the license, endorsement, and permit application process: • Several technical changes to statutes for applications for a license, endorsement or permit. • Examples: Endorsement renewal part of license renewal Required items in application process: labeled premises diagram, e-mail address for licensees Simpler signature requirements for multiple owners and nonprofit organizations Simpler operating requirements (number of hours) for licenses up for renewal 10:19:59 AM MS. BRAWLEY spoke to Chapter 11 of Title 4. She said a lot of those sections would not change or may merely contain minor renumbering proposals. She stated she would not highlight the details but would be pointing out some of the technical issues in statute. She added that endorsements would have to be added to the application process. MS. BRAWLEY spoke to slides 62-65 regarding public convenience licenses. She stated the first proposal is to repeal existing statute and create a replacement to convert all public convenience restaurants to fully operating restaurant licenses. She added there is a proposal to create a seasonal restaurant tourism license. She said there is a proposal to allow some cities to petition the ABC Board to increase the number of restaurant licenses in their cities. MS. BRAWLEY explained the process for converting a public convenience license to a restaurant eating place license (REPL), illustrated on slide 64. MS. BRAWLEY explained the process of local government petitions for additional restaurant licenses. 10:25:25 AM MS. BRAWLEY moved to slide 66 regarding the proposal to allow relocation of a package store from a borough to a city: • Amend AS 04.11.400(k) to allow transfers of both BDL and Package Store licenses from a borough to a city within the borough. • Currently, BDL relocations are allowed in boroughs with at least 60,000 population. • HB 357 would make relocation available in boroughs with at least 50,000 population and currently operating licenses that exceed population limits. 10:26:40 AM MS. BRAWLEY said that slide 68 shows that currently most communities have more operating licenses than are allowed under the statute limits. She said the purpose is not to take away all the licenses in the borough. The bill would allow for the transfer of the extra licenses, so the borough does not fall below the number of licenses that it is allowed to have. The slide listed Fairbanks North Star, Kenai Peninsula, and Matanuska-Susitna boroughs as those which qualify. 10:27:15 AM MS. BRAWLEY progressed to slide 69, Strengthen Reporting Requirements for Municipal Enforcement: • Include in statutory requirements (AS 04.11.610) that municipalities submit quarterly reports on Title 4 enforcement and education activities to the ABC Board: violations, educational presentations, other activities related to alcohol control. • Municipalities with local law enforcement receive a matching allocation ("refund") of license fees collected within their jurisdiction. Funds intended to be used for Title 4 enforcement. REPRESENTATIVE SULLIVAN-LEONARD gave an example of a petition for liquor licenses in her district. She said the signatures had been submitted and then were gathered again. She asked whether there is a proposal to ensure the signatures stay "on the docket" for a few months. MS. BRAWLEY answered that illustrates one of the issues with the current system. She said the proposal would give the city more restaurant licenses. 10:30:30 AM REPRESENTATIVE STUTES asked whether one of the objectives is to devalue the BDL. MS. BRAWLEY answered the purpose of this project was not to negatively impact existing businesses. She said the intent is to rationalize the licensing system and give businesses more options. REPRESENTATIVE STUTES shared her interpretation that the proposal would be allowing endorsements which would devalue a BDL. MS. BRAWLEY answered that many of the endorsement apply to BDLs as well. She explained that many of the retail activities of manufacturers are allowed in current law. She said the proposal would give manufacturers the opportunity to purchase other retail licenses. REPRESENTATIVE STUTES asked for examples of endorsements that would affect BDLs. MS. BRAWLEY gave the example of bowling alleys and golf courses. REPRESENTATIVE STUTES asked whether those entities cannot currently achieve that by way of a caterer's permit. MS. BRAWLEY answered those apply only to an event. 10:34:10 AM REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked about the proposal to repeal convenience licenses. He asked whether there is a public safety issue with restaurants serving beer and wine. MS. BRAWLEY answered public convenience licenses involve a number of administrative issues. She said the benefit for cities is having more restaurant licenses available for businesses to grow and be transferable, unlike in the current system. REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked about the funds being used for education and enforcement. MS. BRAWLEY answered that license fees are currently distributed to communities. She said reports have not be submitted to date, so it is hard to say how the funds are being used. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP added that any application for additional restaurant licenses has to be submitted by a local legislative body. He said it is a safeguard before the application goes to the ABC Board. He said local government is responsive to local business. He added that many local governments had expressed there is a lack of any avenue to pursue additional licenses. He stated the pause on the request would allow time for data to be collected regarding public safety issues. He said law enforcement has been required for decades to report on alcohol licenses. REPRESENTATIVE SULLIVAN-LEONARD stated she thinks ten years to request a new license is not realistic. 10:41:47 AM CHAIR KITO asked for more information on the ten-years provision. MS. BRAWLEY stated the current system requires an individual applicant to seek out signatures for support for the application. She said the proposal is for a city to request more licenses. She gave the example of asking for six licenses even if six licenses were not currently being sought. CHAIR KITO suggested the city would have the ability to approach the ABC Board regarding the number of licenses it can hold. MS. BRAWLEY answered that is correct. She added that regarding the determination of the licenses, AMCO does it annually and is a separate process. 10:44:29 AM REPRESENTATIVE STUTES asked about Ms. Brawley's affiliation with the industry. MS. BRAWLEY answered she is not affiliated with the industry. She informed she has been asked to be project coordinator and to speak for the stakeholders as a whole. REPRESENTATIVE STUTES asked whether Ms. Brawley was a participant in the rewrite of Title 4. MS. BRAWLEY answered in the affirmative. She stated she was presented at the first meeting in 2012 and in most meetings since then. 10:45:16 AM REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked whether other stakeholders would be presenting to the committee. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP answered that anyone can participate in public testimony. He underlined that Ms. Brawley has approval from the stakeholder group and she is not authorized to take a position outside the consensus of the group. He said she has to speak to the consensus points. REPRESENTATIVE WOOL spoke to convenience licenses. He asked about an issue of consistency with public health concerns. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP answered there is nothing in the law that prevents someone from going bar to bar in Juneau, Alaska. He said bars are not allowed to overserve. He added that outside Alaska many package stores offer beer and wine samplings. He said all this does is recognizes how the industry has evolved over time. He reiterated it is not aimed at devaluing other licenses. REPRESENTATIVE WOOL said it seems to him that limiting places where wine can be consumed with a meal yet expanding those without food seems inconsistent with the public safety issue. 10:50:16 AM CHAIR KITO suggested there is confusion about distilleries and breweries. He said the proposal is for changing the process for adding restaurant licenses independent from accommodating economic development of new industries. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP answered that is accurate. 10:51:13 AM REPRESENTATIVE WOOL stated that by eliminating convenience licenses while making it more difficult to add restaurant licenses seems contradictory. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP answered the proposal is not eliminating any restaurant licenses but adding more. He said individual businesses can come to the board whenever necessary. He underlined that the ten-year provision regards municipalities. He said regarding public health and the tastings, there are currently no limits on amounts. 10:53:25 AM REPRESENTATIVE STUTES said the brewery does tastings with limits. CHAIR KITO corrected that right now anyone can offer free tastings and there is no quantity limit on free tastings, only on the amount which can be sold in a tasting room. REPRESENTATIVE STUTES said that is incorrect. CHAIR KITO asked Ms. Brawley whether it is correct that there is no limit on free samples but there is a limit on amount sold in a tasting room. MS. BRAWLEY stated that is correct. 10:54:53 AM REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked why Alaska would have both free and paid samples. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP answered it has been part of the discussion on enabling breweries and startups to market their products. He said those businesses are currently a significant economic engine in Alaska. He added those products ultimately are sold by BDLs. 10:57:09 AM REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON asked whether the bill affords free tasting for all licenses or whether it is restricted to certain licenses. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP said he believes it is true [that the bill allows free tastings for all licenses.] REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON asked about the policy reason if it is not universal. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP deferred to Ms. Brawley. MS. BRAWLEY answered currently manufacturers and brewpubs can offer free samples. The only change would be to allow package stores to offer them as well. 10:58:49 AM REPRESENTATIVE STUTES asked whether dispensary licenses do not currently allow free samples. MS. BRAWLEY answered that is her understanding. 10:59:07 AM REPRESENTATIVE KNOPP asked who owns the licenses for package stores. MS. BRAWLEY answered there is two types of alcohol control systems. She said in one the state itself owns and distributes alcohol through ABC stores. The rest of the states are license states in which the private sector does manufacturing, wholesaling, and retail of alcohol, and Alaska is one. REPRESENTATIVE KNOPP asked what other state governments do in regard to licensing based on population and other considerations. MS. BRAWLEY answered there are many different variations across states. She said some have quotas and others have local licensing. She stated it is hard to compare universally across each state. 11:01:46 AM MS. BRAWLEY moved to slides 72-74 regarding revision of Title 4 penalties. • Review penalties for all Title 4 sections, and revise as needed to make penalties proportionate to the offense, and more consistently enforced. • Reduce most current Class A Misdemeanors to Minor Offenses. • Retain existing Misdemeanor and Felony charges for serious offenses, particularly those causing harm to children. • Ensure that the ABC Board, and licensee if applicable, is informed about Title 4 convictions by requiring the court to send records to AMCO, and AMCO to send to the licensee. • ABC Board retains its authority to impose conditions or additional penalties, including suspending or revoking license. • See Appendix, Table 3, pp. 67-72 in Report for table of all current penalties and proposed changes. 11:03:12 AM MS. BRAWLEY moved on to slide 74 showing the differences between classes of offenses. She said most were proposed to be reduced to a minor offense with a fine. She underlined the proposal is not to reduce enforcement, but to improve enforcement and to focus on major offenses. She added that the penalties with changes are listed in the sectional summary and in the report. MS. BRAWLEY progressed to slide 75 showing the proposal to allow business activities on licensed premises during off hours. • Retain required closing hours (5:00 to 8:00 a.m.) for service and sales of alcohol to consumers, but allow other non-serving business activities on the premises. • Local communities are already allowed to set stricter hours by ordinance. MS. BRAWLEY addressed slide 76 regarding the aim to align state statutes with federal law regarding trade practices. • Add provisions in Title 4 to match current federal law regarding trade practices and agreements between retailers and wholesalers or manufacturers. • Alaska is the only state without any laws regarding trade practices, and federal enforcement of existing laws is limited. 11:05:36 AM MS. BRAWLEY spoke to slide 77 showing examples of trades practices which are prohibited in federal law. MS. BRAWLEY said slide 78 highlights changes to the penalties. She said the proposal is to reduce penalties regarding sales to a minor (Class A misdemeanor to Minor Offence with $500 fine) and over service to an employee (administrative penalty of $250 to licensee). MS. BRAWLEY advanced to slide 79 which illustrates the administrative penalties for overserving an adult or serving a minor. 11:07:51 AM MS. BRAWLEY advanced to slide 80 regarding the proposal to allow minors on some premises for employment or travel. • Allow limited employment of minors by Wholesalers, Common Carriers, and Outdoor Recreation Lodges. • Consistent with existing rules for Restaurants. • Clarify that minors are allowed at certain licensed businesses, in some circumstances: ex. restaurants, common carriers. 11:08:30 AM MS. BRAWLEY moved on to slide 81 detailing to proposal to require board approval of common carriers for alcohol delivery. • Require all common carriers who transport deliver alcohol directly to consumers in Alaska to be approved by the ABC Board. • Carriers must maintain policies for age verification, safe handling of alcohol, and in person delivery to an adult customer. • Does not apply to shipments of alcohol from business to business, only customer orders. 11:09:36 AM REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON spoke to his concerns about changes in Sections 93 and 95. He asked why the legislature should make policy expressing less concerned with an adult renting a hotel room with the purpose of providing alcohol to minors. MS. BRAWLEY shared her general understanding that the rationale is that there are different circumstances in which the scenario can occur. REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON asked whether the statute could be written to include some scenarios and exclude others. MS. BRAWLEY said she thinks that it does make sense. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP said it is hard to accurately reflect all scenarios in law. He agreed that Representative Josephson brings up good points. 11:13:12 AM REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked whether hours for BDLs are the same for package stores. MS. BRAWLEY said it is her understanding that the hour provision applies to all license types. REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked about addressing how late someone can buy alcohol. MS. BRAWLEY answered it was discussed in the stakeholder group. She said the group did not make a recommendation on a state level since many municipalities address the issue. 11:14:52 AM REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON asked why the requirement to impose Alcohol Safety Action Program participation for offenders under age 21 would be repealed. MS. BRAWLEY asked Representative Josephson to indicate the section. REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON answered it is AS 14.16 180d. MS. BRAWLEY answered that was due to changes made a couple of years ago to minor consuming laws. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP added that in 2015, the legislature passed Senate Bill 165, which moved the offense into violation status. He said that disconnected part of the statute from the previously criminal offense. REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON clarified the program was taken up in that bill. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP answered that is correct. 11:16:45 AM REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked whether it is a misdemeanor offense for a spouse under 21 to be found drinking alcohol. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP answered that it is not. He added that currently a child may drink with a parent. He said the legislative intent is that it be a parental oversight decision. 11:17:47 AM MS. BRAWLEY moved to slide 84 regarding proposed changes in Chapter 21. She specified that the chapter deals with protecting minors. She said one of the proposals is registration of kegs. • Require all beer kegs purchased in the state to be registered (and tagged with customer's name). • Law enforcement who confiscate a keg at an underage party can determine who legally purchased the keg and hold adults responsible for furnishing alcohol to minors. • Modeled on existing laws in Anchorage and Juneau • Applies to kegs (containers) 4 gal. or larger. • Licensee keeps customer information about keg purchase on file for a period of time. • Purchaser can be fined for removing tag on a full keg. 11:19:08 AM MS. BRAWLEY spoke to slide 86 outlining the requirement for a server education card for all retail sales and service of alcohol. • Server education includes training in verifying age and identification, responsible alcohol service, overserving, and applicable penalties for violations. • Some, but not all, license types are required that servers (employees) have alcohol server education cards. Also not required for servers at permitted events. • Proposed in SB76: Require all license types who serve the public, including sampling activities, to maintain server education cards. • Require servers for permitted events to be certified prior to the actual event. 11:20:16 AM REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked whether the keg sales provision is only from a licensee directly to a consumer and not business to business. MS. BRAWLEY answered in the affirmative. 11:20:34 AM MS. BRAWLEY said the last few sections of the bill highlight transitions provisions for existing licenses. She said the effective date would be January 2020, allowing 18 months for the boards to educate licensees. • Define process for current licensees of certain types to be converted to equivalent license(s) in the new system. • Also define process of converting applications for repealed or renumbered license types. • Included in Transition sections of HB 357. • See table on page 61 of Report for details. MS. BRAWLEY addressed slides 89-91 showing how existing licenses would be converted. MS. BRAWLEY described the effective dates on the final slide. She highlighted that some provisions would go into effect immediately, while others would go into effect in 2020. 11:23:00 AM CHAIR KITO opened public testimony on HB 357. 11:23:16 AM DALE FOX, President, Alaska Cabaret, Hotel, Restaurant and Retailers Association (Alaska CHARR), testified in support of HB 357. He described the six-year effort in the proposed bill. He described his organization. He said the framework is good. He said Alaska CHARR believes in it. 11:25:26 AM REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked whether Mr. Fox would have answered any of the questions put to Ms. Brawley differently. MR. FOX answered the challenge with compromise is to work through that compromise. He said there were a lot of compromises made over a long period of time. He said the dividing line between BDLs and tasting rooms is an issue that needs refining. He stated he wanted to be loyal to the process and to the effort that has gone into the bill. 11:27:15 AM REPRESENTATIVE STUTES said she would like to have a list of stakeholders that were involved in creating the bill. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP said he believes there is a list in the committee packet. MS. BRAWLEY confirmed that there is a list in the packet. 11:28:02 AM TIFFANY HALL, Executive Director, Recover Alaska, testified in support of HB 357. She said she had a number of organizations on the board of her organization. She described the work that had gone into the bill. She underlined that much of the bill would clean up parts of the statute that are not clear or would integrate new practices. She highlighted that population considerations are backed up by evidence. She spoke to research showing that additional outlets for consuming do add to consumption. REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked Ms. Hall whether she thinks there is an inconsistency with reducing the number of places in which someone can have alcohol with a meal and increasing those places where alcohol can be served without food. MS. HALL shared her understanding that some of the additional licenses would be restaurants but that for manufacturing licenses would be more restricted by population limits. She added that all of the other license types would be bound by population limits. REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asking whether her research shows that Portland, Oregon, is more dangerous due to the fact that all restaurants seem to be able to serve alcohol. MS. HALL answered that she does not know the crime statistics. She said different states operate differently and Alaska has operated under the population system for some time. She said she personally agrees that the sample sizes are higher than she would like, she wants to honor the process and the agreements that were reached in the process. She underlined that currently limits are not in statute. 11:36:23 AM ALISON KULAS, Executive Director, Advisory Board on Alcoholism and Drug Abuse, Alaska Mental Health Board, testified in support of HB 357. She said both boards are in support of HB 357. She said the boards appreciate that the 2013 Alaska Strategies to Prevent Underage Drinking recommendations were taken into account. REPRESENTATIVE KNOPP stated he was never supportive of onsite consumption for marijuana stores. He said the argument had been that package stores do not have onsite consumption, so why should marijuana stores. He asked whether there are concerns about allowing onsite consumption in package stores. MS. KULAS said there is a focus on the training aspect for the servers of samples. She said it was part of the agreements. REPRESENTATIVE KNOPP asked whether the training would be any different from the current training. MS. KULAS said it was a fair point and data would be collected so that other solutions could be developed. 11:43:26 AM CHAIR KITO stated he would recess the meeting. CHAIR KITO said there is a Senate companion bill that would be forthcoming. 11:45:09 AM CHAIR KITO recessed the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee meeting to a call of the chair. 3:30:55 PM CHAIR SAM KITO called the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee meeting back to order at 3:30 p.m. [Chair Kito did not call roll.] 3:30:41 PM CHAIR KITO advised that HB 357 is open and available, but he would work through the next two bills first. [HB 357 was held over.] HB 357-ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL/REGULATION 4:54:39 PM CHAIR KITO announced that the final order of business would be HOUSE BILL NO. 357, "An Act relating to alcoholic beverages; relating to the regulation of manufacturers, wholesalers, retailers, and common carriers of alcoholic beverages; relating to licenses, endorsements, and permits involving alcoholic beverages; relating to the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board; relating to offenses involving alcoholic beverages; amending Rule 17, Alaska Rules of Minor Offense Procedure; and providing for an effective date." 4:55:47 PM REPRESENTATIVE WOOL commented it seems like a lot of the training and education in the proposal is already in place. 4:56:39 PM REPRESENTATIVE CHUCK KOPP, Alaska State Legislature, answered questions on HB 357 as prime sponsor. He answered that the bill standardizes the requirements. He said it would use a better job of using fees for training and education. He deferred to Ms. Brawley. REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked what is different in the proposal from what is already going on. ANNA BRAWLEY, Project Coordinator for Title 4, noted that the requirement for TAMS cards is only subject to some license types and do not apply to breweries, manufacturer tasting rooms, and other new licenses types. She added that a non-profit would now be subject to the requirements. REPRESENTATIVE WOOL asked about funding that comes from license fees for enforcement. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP answered the focus is on a cooperative effort with public safety. MR. FOX added that he would like to see more education through the public safety officers, rather than the issuing of Class A misdemeanors. He recounted an episode in which an underage server was involved in a beer order at a pizzeria. 5:05:07 PM REPRESENTATIVE WOOL suggested the funding isn't based on number of contacts with licensees. He asked whether license money goes to the state or the local municipality. REPRESENTATIVE KOPP answered it would depend on the entity that has that enforcement in their job function. CHAIR KITO held over HB 357.
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