Legislature(1995 - 1996)

01/18/1996 03:05 PM RES

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 HB 212 - TIMBER MANAGEMENT; STATE LAND                                    
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS announced that the agenda was a continuation             
 of the Wednesday, January 17, 1996, meeting on HB 212.  He added              
 that  committee members had been requested to submit any                      
 amendments, in writing, so the committee could address them at this           
 meeting.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 120                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JOHN DAVIES read his proposed amendment for CSHB               
 212, version "M."  He referred to page 3, line 20, and said delete            
 the words "sales of 160 acres or less" and insert "sales under                
 500,000 board feet."                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 165                                                                    
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN JOE GREEN objected for the purposes of discussion.                
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES said his purpose in offering this amendment             
 is based on the different productivity rates in different forests             
 of the state.  He said in the Tanana Valley State Forest a sale of            
 160 acres is not a small sale, it is a large one.  He added that              
 currently, 80 percent of the timber sales in the Tanana Valley                
 would be less than 160 acres.  The productivity of the forest in              
 the Tanana Valley is different from the productivity in the Susitna           
 area.  Representative Davies said that if HB 212 were to use                  
 "500,000 board feet" instead of "160 acres" it would reduce the               
 amount of acreage sold in the Tanana Valley State Forest to                   
 approximately 50 acres.  He said the impact in the Susitna area,              
 because the productivity factor is about 3,000 board feet per acre,           
 the acreage would increase to about 166 acres.  He concluded that             
 the value of having a number that has to do with the quantity of              
 board feet as opposed to acres is that it will accommodate the                
 different productivity of forests around the state.  In the Tanana            
 Valley State Forest, a sale of 160 acres would be tantamount to               
 getting rid of the whole Five Year Schedule; 80 percent of the                
 sales would not be required to be on the schedule.                            
                                                                               
 Number 348                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JEANETTE JAMES objected to the proposed amendment to           
 HB 212.  She said the wording of "160 acres" is a management tool             
 that is effective because when a sale of 160 acres is announced the           
 public can conceptualize that amount which they can not do with               
 500,000 board feet.  She said the Department of Natural Resources             
 (DNR) gave testimony stating that they will put all sales, even               
 those under 160 acres on the five year schedule, even though they             
 are not required to do so.                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 451                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES said that he does not believe that there was            
 a strong consensus as to the wording of HB 212.  He added that the            
 Board of Forestry is on record, with a unanimous recommendation               
 that if the committee leaves the wording of "160 acres" in HB 212,            
 the board requires that it be on the five year schedule at least              
 once.                                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 513                                                                    
                                                                               
 A roll call vote was taken on the proposed amendment to HB 212.               
 Representatives Davies and Long voted in favor of the amendment.              
 Representatives Williams, Green, Ogan, Barnes, Austerman and Kott             
 voted against the amendment.  Representative Nicholia was absent              
 for the vote.  The motion to adopt Representative Davies amendment            
 to HB 212 failed.                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 536                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES offered an additional amendment to HB 212.              
 On page 4, line 13, delete the word "management".  The wording and            
 the purpose of the state forest would be, "the primary purpose in             
 the establishment of state forests is multiple use that provides              
 for production utilization and replenishment," et cetera.                     
 Representative Davies said his primary purpose in deleting the word           
 "management" is to eliminate the connotation that the primary                 
 purpose of the forest is bureaucracy, rather than multiple use.               
                                                                               
 Number 587                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JAMES objected to the proposed amendment.                      
                                                                               
 Number 625                                                                    
                                                                               
 A roll call vote was taken on Representative Davies proposed                  
 amendment.  Representatives Davies and Long voted in favor of the             
 amendment.  Representatives Williams, Green, Ogan, Barnes,                    
 Austerman, and Kott voted against the amendment.  Representative              
 Nicholia was absent for the vote.  The motion to adopt the proposed           
 amendment to HB 212 failed.                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 638                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE DAVIES said he had one last proposed amendment to HB           
 212.  On page 5, lines 20 to 24, delete Section 11 and renumber               
 accordingly.  He said Section 11 is redundant with the list that is           
 provided on page 2.                                                           
 Number 713                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JAMES objected.  She said the classifications listed           
 on page 2 are in relationship to the forest management plan and               
 Section 11 restates the objective of wildlife management within the           
 Tanana Valley State Forest.                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE NICHOLIA joined the committee meeting.                         
                                                                               
 A roll call vote was taken on the proposed amendment to HB 212.               
 Representatives Davies, Long and Nicholia voted in favor of the               
 amendment.  Representatives Kott, Austerman, Barnes, Ogan, Green,             
 Williams voted against the amendment.  The motion to adopt the                
 proposed amendment to HB 212 failed.                                          
                                                                               
 Number 778                                                                    
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN GREEN moved that committee substitute for HB 212,                 
 Resources version, 9LSO695-M, be moved from committee with                    
 individual recommendations and attached fiscal note.                          
                                                                               
 Number 796                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE IRENE NICHOLIA asked if the committee received any             
 fiscal notes for the new version from the Department of Fish and              
 Game (DFG) and the Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC).            
                                                                               
 CO-CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS said affected agencies can submit fiscal notes           
 to the House Finance Committee when it hears CSHB 212(RES).                   
                                                                               
 A roll call vote was taken.  Representatives Williams, Green, Ogan,           
 Barnes, Austerman, Kott and Nicholia voted in favor of moving the             
 bill from committee.  Representatives Davies and Long voted against           
 moving the bill.  The motion to pass committee substitute for HB              
 212, Resources 9LSO695-M, out of the House Resources Committee                
 succeeded.  So HB 212(RES) moved from committee.                              
                                                                               

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