Legislature(2009 - 2010)CAPITOL 17

02/10/2009 01:00 PM TRANSPORTATION


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01:04:09 PM Start
01:04:59 PM HB100
01:20:50 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 100 JOSEPH C WILLIAMS, SR., COASTAL TRAIL TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
HB 100-JOSEPH C WILLIAMS, SR., COASTAL TRAIL                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
1:04:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 100, "An Act   relating to the Joseph C. Williams,                                                               
Sr., Coastal Trail."                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:05:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SONIA  CHRISTENSEN,  Staff,   to  Representative  Kyle  Johansen,                                                               
Alaska  State Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  began by  explaining                                                               
that a beautiful trail runs along  the coast of the South Tongass                                                               
Highway in Ketchikan.   She offered that  recent construction was                                                               
completed, along with an extension of  the bike path.  She stated                                                               
that the trail  was named Joseph C. Williams,  Sr. Coastal Trail.                                                               
However, under the  current statute, AS 35.40.053,  the bike path                                                               
is listed  as being  between Ketchikan and  Saxman.   She related                                                               
that  HB 100  would delete  that language  and rename  the entire                                                               
coastal  trail after  Joseph C.  Williams,  Sr.   In response  to                                                               
Chair Wilson, Ms. Christensen answered  that she was not aware of                                                               
any objections to HB 100.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:06:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHANSEN,  in response  to Chair  Wilson, recalled                                                               
that  the  original  bill  that  created  the  trail  passed  the                                                               
legislature several years  ago with a zero  fiscal note attached.                                                               
He  further  recalled that  the  Department  of Transportation  &                                                               
Public Facilities  (DOT&PF) listed in the  description portion of                                                               
its zero  fiscal note  that the  cost of  constructing a  sign to                                                               
rename the trail would run between  $2,000 and $2,500.  He opined                                                               
that the DOT&PF could currently  either absorb the cost or simply                                                               
not erect a sign at one end of  the trail.  He opined that if the                                                               
DOT&PF could put  up a sign a few years  ago without charge, that                                                               
it should be able to absorb the cost now.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:09:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHANSEN,  in response to  Representative Johnson,                                                               
explained that HB  100 currently does not have a  referral to the                                                               
House Finance Committee.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:09:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARY  SIROKY, Legislative  Liaison, Office  of the  Commissioner,                                                               
Department  of  Transportation   &  Public  Facilities  (DOT&PF),                                                               
explained that  the DOT&PF's policy  in the past few  years, with                                                               
respect  to signage,  is to  attach a  fiscal note  when for  the                                                               
installation  of all  new signs  when they  are required  through                                                               
legislation.   However, she related  that the DOT&PF  will absorb                                                               
the long-term maintenance  of the signs.  Thus, if  any damage is                                                               
sustained, the  DOT&PF will replace  the sign  without projecting                                                               
the  cost in  the fiscal  note.   She  added that  the DOT&PF  is                                                               
frequently  asked to  add signs  and the  cost of  the additional                                                               
signage is  frequently from its maintenance  and operations (M&O)                                                               
budget.   She opined that  the DOT&PF believes it  is appropriate                                                               
to inform the legislature of the actual cost to erect a sign.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  responded  and acknowledged  that  the                                                               
committee has been informed.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:10:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHANSEN,  in response to  Representative Johnson,                                                               
answered that a  sign is currently at the head  of the trail, but                                                               
the trail  could use an additional  sign.  He suggested  that the                                                               
DOT&PF could decide whether to add  the sign and absorb the cost.                                                               
In  response to  Representative Johnson,  Representative Johansen                                                               
explained  that the  existing sign  is relatively  new and  is in                                                               
good shape.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:11:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHANSEN,  in response to Chair  Wilson, explained                                                               
that the road  continues to Mountain Point, approximately  5 or 6                                                               
miles.    In further  response  to  Chair Wilson,  Representative                                                               
Johansen  offered that  the road  is paved  to Herring  Cove, and                                                               
past  that point  the road  is  not paved.   He  stated that  the                                                               
distance is probably  9 or 10 miles to Beaver  Falls, which is at                                                               
the end of the road.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:12:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHANSEN  explained  that the  Chair  prepared  a                                                               
House  Transportation Standing  Committee zero  fiscal note.   He                                                               
offered that  one option for the  committee is to adopt  the zero                                                               
fiscal note and not adopt the DOT&PF fiscal note.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:13:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON   stated  for  the  record   that  the  explanation                                                               
previously given to her was not quite the same.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON  stated  that  he would  move  the  House                                                               
Transportation Standing  Committee's fiscal note at  the time the                                                               
bill is reported from the committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:13:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN  WILLIAMS, Mayor,  City  of Saxman,  began  his testimony  by                                                               
explaining that he is the godson  of the late Joseph C. Williams,                                                               
who served as  a leader and the  Mayor of the City  of Saxman for                                                               
over 35  years.  He  related that the  senior Mr. Williams  was a                                                               
fisherman,  a provider  for  the community,  and  also served  as                                                               
Grand  President of  the Alaska  Native  Brotherhood (ANB)  Grand                                                               
Camp for many  years.  Mr. Williams, Sr. died  in 1982, he noted.                                                               
He stated that naming the trail  after Joseph C. Williams, Sr. is                                                               
a great  honor for  the City of  Saxman and for  his family.   He                                                               
concluded  his  testimony  by saying  in  Tlingit  "Gunalcheesh,"                                                               
which translates as thank you.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:16:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS, in response  to Representative Gruenberg, explained                                                               
that he recently returned as mayor  of the City of Saxman after a                                                               
three-year  break.   Thus,  while  he appreciates  Representative                                                               
Gruenberg's  interest in  knowing his  transportation priorities,                                                               
that  he  will  first  need  to  study  and  review  the  current                                                               
transportation needs of his community.   He thanked the committee                                                               
for its generosity  in passing this bill.  He  commented that the                                                               
trail is frequently used by residents and tourists.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:17:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON explained that the  committee would like to move the                                                               
bill to the floor for action.   Thus, the committee would like to                                                               
take action  on a zero  fiscal note.   She explained that  if the                                                               
coastal trail  is expanded in  the future,  that the name  of the                                                               
trail  would remain  the same  as the  "Joseph C.  Williams, Sr.,                                                               
Coastal Trail."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS,  in response  to Chair  Wilson, stated  that moving                                                               
one  sign  to  the  other  end  of  the  costal  trail  would  be                                                               
acceptable to  him.  He  stated that the coastal  trail currently                                                               
has two  signs, one near  the U.S. Coast  Guard base, and  one in                                                               
the City of Saxman near the Ketchikan Gateway Borough bus stop.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHANSEN expressed  his  displeasure that  DOT&PF                                                               
might not absorb  the cost of relocating the sign  on the coastal                                                               
trail from its M&O budget.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  commented that she  thought the DOT&PF  was willing                                                               
to move the sign.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHANSEN  applauded  the  Williams  family.    He                                                               
offered  that  Mr. William's  brother  previously  served in  the                                                               
legislature, that their  father was a great leader  for the area.                                                               
Additionally  another   brother  served  as  the   mayor  of  the                                                               
Ketchikan  Gateway  Borough  and  currently serves  on  the  city                                                               
council.   His nephew was  also on  the city council,  he stated.                                                               
He said, "The whole family is  so engaged in our community.  It's                                                               
just great, so thank you for your service."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILLIAMS,  in response  to Chair  Wilson, explained  that his                                                               
father has  two daughters  and two sons  from his  first marriage                                                               
and two sons and a daughter from his second marriage.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:19:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON, after first determining  that no one else wished to                                                               
testify, closed the public testimony on HB 100.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:19:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE Johnson moved to report HB 100, version 26-                                                                      
LS0428\A, out of committee with individual recommendations and                                                                  
the accompanying zero fiscal note prepared by the House                                                                         
Transportation Standing Committee.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, HB 100 was reported from the House                                                                    
Transportation Standing Committee.                                                                                              

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
hb100b~1.pdf HTRA 2/10/2009 1:00:00 PM
HB100-DOT-SMO-2-06-09.pdf HTRA 2/10/2009 1:00:00 PM
HB 100
hb100s~1.pdf HTRA 2/10/2009 1:00:00 PM
hb100w~1.pdf HTRA 2/10/2009 1:00:00 PM