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03/18/2010 03:30 PM Senate COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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03:36:56 PM Start
03:37:35 PM HB19
05:01:27 PM Adjourn
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             HB  19-ELIMINATE DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME                                                                          
3:37:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON announced the first  order of business to come before                                                               
the committee was HB 19 [CSHB 19(L&C)].                                                                                         
3:37:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CRYSTAL  KOENEMAN,   aide  to  Representative   Fairclough,  said                                                               
multiple attempts  to eliminate  Daylight Saving Time  (DST) have                                                               
been  made since  1999. Congress  placed  the country  on DST  to                                                               
conserve resources  during World  War I.  DST was  unpopular with                                                               
farmers and  others and was  later repealed.  Congress reinstated                                                               
DST in  February, 1942, to  conserve energy during World  War II.                                                               
From 1945 to 1966, no  DST law existed; states and municipalities                                                               
could  do as  they chose.  This  caused confusion.  In 1966,  the                                                               
Uniform  Time Act  said DST  would begin  on the  last Sunday  of                                                               
April  and end  on  the last  Sunday of  October.  Any area  that                                                               
wanted  to be  exempt from  DST could  do so  by passing  a local                                                               
ordinance. The law was amended in  1986 to begin DST on the first                                                               
Sunday in April.                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked for a brief history of DST in Alaska.                                                                         
3:41:36 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KOENEMAN  said Alaska  went from  five time  zones to  two in                                                               
1983.  Juneau and  Southeast Alaska  moved from  Pacific Time  to                                                               
Alaska Standard  with Anchorage and Southcentral.  Western Alaska                                                               
was  moved an  hour  earlier  to Alaska  Standard  Time. Part  of                                                               
Alaska remains on Aleutian and Hawaii Time.                                                                                     
CHAIR OLSON  asked how DST  affected that  change 20 or  30 years                                                               
MS. KOENEMAN said  the switch to Alaska Standard  Time in Western                                                               
Alaska, especially with DST, negatively  impacted rural areas and                                                               
schools. Kids were going out to recess in the dark and cold.                                                                    
3:43:24 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH,  sponsor of  HB  16  said Hawaii  and                                                               
Arizona do  not observe  DST. Indiana was  partially off  DST and                                                               
now  is back  on  DST.  She referred  to  research  showing a  $9                                                               
million cost  when Indiana went back  on to DST. She  said people                                                               
will testify  about the impact on  business, energy, recreational                                                               
activities, safety, schools and health.                                                                                         
SENATOR  MENARD asked  if  most private  citizens  would like  to                                                               
repeal  DST while  some business  entities are  against repealing                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH replied  a variety  of opinions  exist                                                               
about  DST. She  referred to  a  statewide poll  showing that  55                                                               
percent of Alaskans  support the repeal of DST.  A Rasmussen Poll                                                               
found that 47  percent of Americans don't like  DST. The National                                                               
Federation  of  Independent  Businesses  (NFIB) is  in  favor  of                                                               
repealing  DST.   A  state  chamber  poll   shows  opposition  to                                                               
repealing  DST  but  25  percent of  the  respondents  came  from                                                               
Southeast and 70 to 80 percent  of Southeast does not like HB 19.                                                               
Different industries,  such as broadcasting, finance  and travel,                                                               
have different opinions.                                                                                                        
3:47:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR THOMAS  said he feels  we should spring forward  and stay                                                               
there.  He noted  that Hawaii  has 12  hours of  daylight and  12                                                               
hours of  dark no  matter what  they do;  Arizona isn't  far from                                                               
that. In  Fairbanks and further  north, it's dark no  matter what                                                               
you do. He  thinks the issue is more about  relating to the Lower                                                               
48  states  from a  business  aspect.  He  asked how  many  hours                                                               
difference Alaska would  be from the West Coast if  it remains on                                                               
Alaska Standard Time.                                                                                                           
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH  replied  that Alaska  would  be  five                                                               
hours off  East Coast time when  they spring forward in  March of                                                               
2011. She told  Senator Thomas that polls coming out  of his area                                                               
heavily favor the repeal of DST.                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS  said that sunrise  is as  late as 10:15  a.m. and                                                               
sunset is  as early  as 2:45  p.m. in Fairbanks.  He is  not sure                                                               
people understand the impact on  daylight and the relationship to                                                               
the rest  of the  country, though  he noted he  has not  seen the                                                               
poll Representative Fairclough referred to.                                                                                     
3:49:44 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH said  she could get the  extra polls to                                                               
Senator Thomas.  She referred members  to "DST Around  the World"                                                               
which shows DST going away  internationally. She pointed out that                                                               
in Nome, it takes 10 days to make  up the hour of light lost from                                                               
jumping forward and 12 days in Anchorage.                                                                                       
3:51:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON  asked for clarification  that Alaska would  be going                                                               
back to  Alaska Standard Time year  round, meaning either 4  or 5                                                               
hours difference  from the  East Coast depending  on the  time of                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  replied that is correct.  She said she                                                               
used to  be a  buyer for JC  Penney and had  a narrow  window for                                                               
communicating  with the  East Coast  whether it  was DST  or not.                                                               
However,  she   noted  that  those  who   participate  in  market                                                               
activities and currently get to work  at 5 a.m. would have to get                                                               
to work at 4 a.m.                                                                                                               
3:52:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  MENARD asked  about the  American Indian  reservation in                                                               
Arizona that still observes DST and  how that works when the bulk                                                               
of Arizona has repealed DST.                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH  said  she believes  Arizona  did  not                                                               
repeal DST  but, rather,  never adopted it.  She added  that some                                                               
parts of  Alaska, such as  Metlakatla, stay on standard  time and                                                               
refuse to go onto DST.                                                                                                          
3:53:37 PM                                                                                                                    
DAN  CUDDY, president,  First National  Bank of  Alaska, said  he                                                               
supports HB  19 and repealing DST.  During DST, a person  goes to                                                               
work in  the winter in  the dark and comes  home in the  dark. On                                                               
Standard  Time, a  person comes  home  in the  daylight. We  lose                                                               
daylight during  DST. Staying on  Standard Time would  also allow                                                               
for 6 months on the same time as the West coast states.                                                                         
CHAIR  OLSON asked  how  staying on  Standard  Time would  affect                                                               
dealing with large financial institutions on the East Coast.                                                                    
MR. CUDDY said it would not be a problem.                                                                                       
3:55:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CAROL TYLER, representing herself, Big  Lake, spoke in support of                                                               
HB  19.  She  said  DST causes  health  concerns  and  interrupts                                                               
people's biorhythms.  Her children had a  terrible time adjusting                                                               
to  the time  change  and their  education  suffered during  that                                                               
time. School  starts too  early and then  with the  time changes,                                                               
high school  kids sleep  the first  half of the  day and  are not                                                               
getting  the  education  they need.  Childhood  obesity  is  also                                                               
exacerbated with  lack of sleep.  She noted that  with electronic                                                               
communication in a  global economy, businesses do not  need to be                                                               
on the same time zone.                                                                                                          
3:57:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SCOTT   SMITH,    Legislative   Liaison,    Alaska   Broadcasters                                                               
Association, said that although  he doesn't like DST, eliminating                                                               
DST in  Alaska would have  unintended consequences. A  great deal                                                               
of programming would be tape  delayed rather than live, including                                                               
some  live  sports events.  A  lot  of  radio programs  come  via                                                               
satellite  and would  need  to be  recorded  and replayed,  which                                                               
entails high  labor costs. Conducting business  across time zones                                                               
would be more complex as Alaska  would be bouncing back and forth                                                               
between four and five hours difference from the East Coast.                                                                     
3:59:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  OLSON  asked if  Mr.  Smith  is  speaking for  the  Alaska                                                               
Broadcasters Association.                                                                                                       
MR.  SMITH  said  he  owns  radio stations  on  Kodiak.  He  said                                                               
eliminating DST would  not have a large impact  on him personally                                                               
but  he  has been  asked  to  speak  on  behalf of  a  Television                                                               
Broadcaster who would be more largely impacted.                                                                                 
CHAIR OLSON asked for clarification  on Mr. Smith's opinion of HB
MR. SMITH said he  is opposed to a change to  DST unless the rest                                                               
of the country changes as well.                                                                                                 
4:00:43 PM                                                                                                                    
GREG  DUROCHER, representing  himself, Anchorage,  said he  works                                                               
for the United  State Geological Survey (USGS) and  has 7:30 a.m.                                                               
meetings which  would have to be  moved to 6:30 a.m.  for half of                                                               
the year.  He said  most government agencies have headquarters on                                                               
the East  Coast. He  refuted Mr.  Cuddy's earlier  statement that                                                               
Alaskans would have more daylight in  the winter if HB 19 passes.                                                               
Alaska is  already on Standard  Time during the winter  and would                                                               
not  have more  daylight after  working hours  unless we  were to                                                               
spring  forward and  stay  there. He  pointed  out that  students                                                               
bounce back  and forth  between time  zones whenever  they travel                                                               
out of state.                                                                                                                   
4:03:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SUZY CROSBY,  representing herself,  Mat-Su Valley,  also refuted                                                               
Mr.  Cuddy's comment  that  repealing DST  would  result in  more                                                               
daylight  hours  after  work.  Repealing  DST  would  not  change                                                               
anything  in the  winter  and would  result in  an  hour less  of                                                               
daylight after work in the summer.  She would rather leave DST as                                                               
is  or spring  forward and  stay forward.  From late  May through                                                               
mid-July the average  sunrise is 4:30 a.m. She  questioned why we                                                               
would want  an extra hour of  daylight at 3:30 a.m.  The majority                                                               
of Alaskans  love the hours  of daylight in the  summer evenings.                                                               
She works for  the Alaska State Fair, attended  by 300,000 people                                                               
annually. Eliminating  DST would  have a  negative impact  on the                                                               
Alaska State  Fair's evening  concerts. Without  DST, a  sense of                                                               
being in the land of the midnight sun would halt.                                                                               
She said the challenge of being  four hours behind the East Coast                                                               
for business  purposes is already difficult  enough. She objected                                                               
to  the  wording  of the  surveys  circulated  by  Representative                                                               
Fairclough and read them as they should have been written.                                                                      
4:08:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  CROSBY said  she would  propose to  spring forward  and stay                                                               
forward to have  the extra hour of  light at the end  of the day.                                                               
She further  suggested another  time zone could  be put  in place                                                               
for Western Alaska to avoid the darker mornings.                                                                                
4:09:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MENARD said  she does not think the  survey questions Ms.                                                               
Crosby referred to were trick  questions. She asked if the Alaska                                                               
State Fair has taken a position on DST.                                                                                         
MS. CROSBY replied that the Alaska  State Fair has taken a strong                                                               
position of wanting to keep DST as is.                                                                                          
4:10:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON called a brief at ease.                                                                                             
4:10:27 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  OLSON brought  the meeting  back to  order and  turned the                                                               
gavel over to Senator Menard.                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH said the  questions Ms. Crosby referred                                                               
to were in a letter to the  general public of Alaska but were not                                                               
on  the poll.   The  poll was  one question:  "Would you  like to                                                               
repeal DST time or not?"                                                                                                        
4:12:42 PM                                                                                                                    
KATHLEEN  FLEMING, representing  herself, Talkeetna  testified in                                                               
support of  HB 19. She  runs an  astronomy program for  her local                                                               
radio station and teaches basic  star gazing. The majority of the                                                               
state's  population is  along the  meridian that  is already  one                                                               
hour off  of the standard  meridian during Standard Time  and two                                                               
hours off during  DST. Juneau is the only place  where clock time                                                               
and sun time  are in sync and that is  only during Standard Time.                                                               
She  is in  favor  of living  according to  sun  time though  she                                                               
admits some  inconvenience would  exist when dealing  with states                                                               
that switch  to DST. She  noted that scientists,  astronomers and                                                               
pilots refer to Universal Coordinated  Time or Greenwich Time and                                                               
must go back and forth with DST.                                                                                                
Longer days  mean an  hour of  darkness is  lost in  the evening;                                                               
stars are  no longer available  to kids. With  perpetual daylight                                                               
in  the summer,  she sees  no  reason to  gain an  extra hour  of                                                               
daylight  in the  evening. In  autumn,  falling back  an hour  is                                                               
shocking as 6  minutes of daylight is lost per  day anyway. We do                                                               
not need  to be  like the  Lower 48 but  think for  ourselves and                                                               
live in accordance with natural cycles.                                                                                         
4:17:09 PM                                                                                                                    
MIKE HARMER,  representing himself,  Homer, testified  in support                                                               
of HB 19  saying he wonders why we need  more daylight in summer.                                                               
In response to Ms. Crosby, he  said he has never seen pitch black                                                               
in  September until  after midnight.  He would  like to  get away                                                               
from changing times as doing so affects circadian rhythm.                                                                       
4:19:12 PM                                                                                                                    
LYNN  WILLIS, representing  himself,  Eagle  River, testified  in                                                               
support of HB 19. He said  he submitted written testimony with 21                                                               
reasons to do  away with DST in Alaska.  These include disruption                                                               
of  sleep  patterns  and circadian  rhythm  and  recognizing  the                                                               
improvements  in technology  allowing  communication  24 hours  a                                                               
day. No  Alaskan utility credits  DST with energy savings  nor do                                                               
Alaskans  see decreased  energy costs.  He quickly  discussed the                                                               
decisions  and  implications of  the  1983  time zone  change  in                                                               
Alaska. He  pointed out  that Pacific Rim  nations do  no observe                                                               
DST and multinational corporations  routinely use Greenwich Time,                                                               
which  does  not  change,   to  conduct  international  business.                                                               
Statewide polls  show that the  majority of Alaskans want  to end                                                               
DST,  in  both urban  and  rural  Alaska. He  reminded  committee                                                               
members that  four previous house  bills and one  previous senate                                                               
bill have tried  to repeal DST but have died.  He hopes the issue                                                               
of DST can be resolved this time.                                                                                               
4:22:55 PM                                                                                                                    
LORA REINBOLD,  representing herself,  Eagle River,  testified in                                                               
support of HB  19. She has substitute taught for  eight years and                                                               
said  changing back  and forth  from DST  affects the  classroom.                                                               
Sleeping is  hard enough for  people in Alaska with  the natural,                                                               
drastic change in daylight. DST  is a complication and a nuisance                                                               
and not necessary anymore.                                                                                                      
[SENATOR MENARD turned the gavel back over to Chair Olson.]                                                                     
4:25:31 PM                                                                                                                    
THOMAS CARPENDER, representing himself,  North Pole, testified in                                                               
support  of HB  19.  He  saw a  news  program  that reported  DST                                                               
increases serious heart attacks,  decreases return on investments                                                               
in the week  of the time change, costs the  U.S. over $56 billion                                                               
and causes  deaths and injuries.  He said  his wife was  a school                                                               
bus driver and DST puts the kids  back in the dark just when they                                                               
have gained  some morning  daylight. DST  makes drivers  and kids                                                               
sleep deprived  and is  not worth  a child  being hurt.  He noted                                                               
that most  businesses are  conducted over  the internet  which is                                                               
not  affected   by  time   and  TV   schedule  changes   are  not                                                               
4:28:28 PM                                                                                                                    
DON  CORNELIUS, representing  himself,  Petersburg, testified  in                                                               
opposition   to   HB   19    saying   that   avoiding   temporary                                                               
inconvenience, twice a year, is main  reason for HB 19. If Alaska                                                               
does not  stay in sync  with the rest  of the U.S.,  all Alaskans                                                               
will be inconvenienced. Southeast Alaska  already lost an hour of                                                               
their evenings  in 1983.  HB 19 would  eliminate another  hour of                                                               
daylight when most  Alaskans spend time outdoors  and would drive                                                               
people  away   from  healthy   outdoor  activities   toward  more                                                               
sedentary  indoor activities.  He noted  that Southern  Southeast                                                               
Alaska  already has  much less  evening  light than  the rest  of                                                               
Alaska; however, he understands  why Anchorage and Western Alaska                                                               
don't like  DST. He felt  the problem  began when most  of Alaska                                                               
was combined into  one time zone. Most Alaskans would  like to go                                                               
back to  the old time  zone divisions and  stay in sync  with the                                                               
rest of  the country.  If one  time zone must  be adhered  to, he                                                               
suggested sticking to DST, not Standard Time.                                                                                   
4:32:09 PM                                                                                                                    
JOSEF QUITSLUND,  representing himself, Petersburg,  testified in                                                               
opposition to  HB 19. He  does most of  his work, which  is noisy                                                               
work,  outside. He  gets a  lot done  during DST.  He begin  work                                                               
earlier and  wake up  the neighbors. He  supports staying  in DST                                                               
time through  the year and  suggested the state needed  more than                                                               
one time zone.                                                                                                                  
4:33:42 PM                                                                                                                    
BOB WEBBER, representing himself, Mat-Su,  supports HB 19 and the                                                               
repeal of  DST. He said  the legislators "screwed all  the clocks                                                               
up" in  the 80's and  suggested this  was to placate  the capitol                                                               
move.  The Legislature  should  "set the  clocks  and leave  them                                                               
alone."  If people  in  Juneau do  not have  enough  time in  the                                                               
evening, they  should start work  earlier. He should not  have to                                                               
wake his child up in the dark and  put her to bed in the light to                                                               
be on Juneau's  time zone. If the legislature would  do away with                                                               
DST,  people  would  not  have   to  struggle  to  adjust  to  an                                                               
insensible time change.                                                                                                         
4:36:55 PM                                                                                                                    
BILL LEGERE,  General Manager,  KTOO, and  past president  of the                                                               
American Broadcasters Association, testified  in opposition to HB
19. Broadcasters are  concerned about being out of  sync with the                                                               
rest of the  country for eight months of the  year which would be                                                               
confusing  to viewers  and listeners.  KTOO has  about 100  time-                                                               
based software programs  that put programming on  the air, manage                                                               
ventilation  and run  the emergency  alert  system. All  software                                                               
automatically changes  back and forth  from DST to  Standard Time                                                               
and would have  to be modified if HB 19  passes. Adjusting to the                                                               
change would  be like  Y2K for  many industries.  Many industries                                                               
such  as airlines,  cruise ships,  ferries, banks,  hospitals and                                                               
customs  are not  set up  to  accommodate Alaska's  inconsistency                                                               
with the rest of the country.                                                                                                   
4:40:39 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  OLSON asked  if  Mr.  Leger is  familiar  with the  public                                                               
broadcasting in  Western Alaska  and whether  they have  the same                                                               
computer generated, automatic time constraints.                                                                                 
MR.  LEGERE  replied  yes,  most  commercial  and  non-commercial                                                               
stations  depend on  automation equipment  to run  their stations                                                               
when they cannot afford to have  people there.  One person, often                                                               
out of  two or three staff  members, will have to  figure out how                                                               
to reprogram the software.                                                                                                      
CHAIR OLSON  asked where the  nearest engineer to  Western Alaska                                                               
stations is.                                                                                                                    
MR.  LEGERE  replied the  nearest  engineer  is in  Anchorage  or                                                               
Bethel. Technical  fixes have to  wait for  someone to fly  in or                                                               
fix them remotely.                                                                                                              
CHAIR  OLSON said  he believes  an  engineer is  in Kotzebue  and                                                               
MR. LEGERE concurred.                                                                                                           
4:42:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON closed public testimony.                                                                                            
4:42:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON asked what Canada  and other large western nations do                                                               
about DST.                                                                                                                      
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH  answered  that  other  countries  are                                                               
having  a  similar  national   debate.  Many  Canadian  provinces                                                               
observe DST but several do not.                                                                                                 
4:43:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MENARD  asked if  state agencies have  weighed in  on the                                                               
potential effects of repealing DST.                                                                                             
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH   said  she   heard  from   the  Palin                                                               
administration  last year  but  has not  heard  from the  Parnell                                                               
administration. The  Permanent Fund  Division submitted  a letter                                                               
saying they  would have to  bring someone  in an hour  earlier or                                                               
not  participate  in  the  market  for  that  hour.  The  IT  and                                                               
Maintenance sections  both thought  that going  off of  DST would                                                               
save money because  older equipment needs to  be manually changed                                                               
to DST.  She noted  that computers have  a one-click  function to                                                               
say you are on or off of DST.                                                                                                   
4:46:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KOENEMAN added that cell  phones automatically update through                                                               
satellites.  Having  to  switch communication  devices  back  and                                                               
forth is almost a non-issue.                                                                                                    
4:46:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON  asked Representative  Fairclough to comment  on some                                                               
of the testimony.                                                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH said Alaskans  are passionate about the                                                               
detriments and  benefits they see resulting  from the elimination                                                               
of DST. She explained that the  letter Ms. Crosby referred to was                                                               
meant to  stimulate a conversation and  was not a poll.  She said                                                               
Alaskan's lives are disrupted twice a  year to benefit from 10 to                                                               
13 days  of added  light. She respects  that Southeast  Alaska is                                                               
highly opposed  to HB 19 and  feel they have given  up their hour                                                               
already.   She  also   recognizes  that   Alaska  would   not  be                                                               
synchronized with the rest of the  U.S. if HB 19 passes. However,                                                               
she noted  that DST  is being  eliminated internationally  due to                                                               
health issues.                                                                                                                  
She reported  that Indiana's  study showed  a cost  increase from                                                               
switching  to  DST.  Energy  savings associated  with  DST  is  a                                                               
fallacy depending  on where you are  in the state; it  is not the                                                               
case for  most of  Alaska. Lights  are turned  on in  the morning                                                               
when getting  up in  the dark. Alaska  utilities say  the largest                                                               
contributing  factor to  energy consumption  is temperature,  not                                                               
She  said  recreation  concerns  for  Southeast  are  valid.  The                                                               
Department of  Transportation (DOT) said accident  risk increases                                                               
in  autumn  when  the  hour of  daylight  is  lost  dramatically.                                                               
Anecdotally, the  restaurant industry reports people  not showing                                                               
up for  work. Schools anecdotally  report that DST  is disruptive                                                               
in  the classroom.  The Superintendent  of  the Anchorage  School                                                               
District is  in favor of  repealing DST. Doctors say  a student's                                                               
hypothalamus is not  fully developed and time  changes are harder                                                               
on kids.                                                                                                                        
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  pointed to a study  showing disruption                                                               
in the  classroom as an  indicator of  test scores and  she noted                                                               
DST happens when  kids are being tested. She pointed  to a German                                                               
study  showing that  people who  suffer  from Seasonal  Affective                                                               
Disorder  (SAD)  or a  sleep  affliction  have a  difficult  time                                                               
transitioning in  and out  of DST.  A Swedish  study shows  a 4-5                                                               
percent increase in  the heart attack rate  associated with sleep                                                               
deprivation  or disruption.  She  noted that  time changes  cause                                                               
difficulties  for  people  who take  medication  on  a  schedule.                                                               
Finally,  she stressed  that  she did  ask  particular people  to                                                               
testify; people emerged in support of or opposition to HB 19.                                                                   
CHAIR OLSON asked her to touch  on the matter of kids waiting for                                                               
the morning school bus in the dark.                                                                                             
4:57:14 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  answered that First Student  and other                                                               
transport for  children and parents  say "it's insanity"  to move                                                               
back  into morning  darkness. Doing  so increases  the likelihood                                                               
that a child  will be harmed. First Alert tells  its employees to                                                               
be cautious around DST because  kids were used to seeing daylight                                                               
at bus stops and then are without daylight again.                                                                               
4:58:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. KOENEMAN  pointed out  that much  of the  testimony suggested                                                               
staying on DST. Staying on DST  is technically a time zone change                                                               
which is a federal DOT issue.  Also, Western Alaska would be even                                                               
further off of sun time.                                                                                                        
4:59:56 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH closed  by saying  the NFIB  in Alaska                                                               
supports HB 19  thought they would have to be  vigilant about not                                                               
being synchronized with the Lower  48. DST hurts Alaskan children                                                               
and  could  possibly  have  an  impact  on  other  Alaska  health                                                               
5:01:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR OLSON said that he will hold HB 19.                                                                                       

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