Legislature(2015 - 2016)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/13/2016 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 137(FIN) am                                                                                             
     "An Act raising certain  fees related to sport fishing,                                                                    
     hunting, and  trapping; relating  to the fish  and game                                                                    
     fund;  providing for  the repeal  of the  sport fishing                                                                    
     surcharge  and sport  fishing  facility revenue  bonds;                                                                    
     replacing  the  permanent  sport fishing,  hunting,  or                                                                    
     trapping  identification  card  for  certain  residents                                                                    
     with  an identification  card  valid  for three  years;                                                                    
     relating to  hunting and fishing by  proxy; relating to                                                                    
     fish and  game conservation decals; raising  the age of                                                                    
     eligibility for  a sport fishing, hunting,  or trapping                                                                    
     license exemption for state  residents; raising the age                                                                    
     at  which a  state  resident is  required  to obtain  a                                                                    
     license for  sport fishing,  hunting, or  trapping; and                                                                    
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
9:12:48 AM                                                                                                                    
AL   BARRETTE,   SELF,   FAIRBANKS   (via   teleconference),                                                                    
testified in opposition to the  bill, until the issue of the                                                                    
low income licensed  was addressed. He felt  that those that                                                                    
were low  income could handle  an increase in  their license                                                                    
fees. He spoke out in  opposition to the Chitina dip netting                                                                    
fee, and  felt he  did not  need to pay  the fee  because he                                                                    
paid  taxes that  were used  for road  maintenance. He  felt                                                                    
that  subsistence fishermen  should  be required  to have  a                                                                    
fishing license. He thought  that the language, "immediately                                                                    
upon capture",  on Page  5, line 17,  should be  changed to,                                                                    
"before leaving the kill site".                                                                                                 
9:16:35 AM                                                                                                                    
EDDIE  GRASSER, SAFARI  CLUB INTERNATIONAL,  ALASKA CHAPTER,                                                                    
JUNEAU,  shared that many  groups had recently come together                                                                    
to  support  the  increase in  licensing  fees,  among  them                                                                    
Territorial    Sportsman,   Alaska    Professional   Hunters                                                                    
Association,  Alaska   Outdoor  Council,  and   Safari  Club                                                                    
International Chapter. He spoke  in support of the licensing                                                                    
fees, and  felt that  the money should  be spent  to benefit                                                                    
those that were  paying the fees. He  shared that sportsmen,                                                                    
hunters,  and   anglers  paid  for   the  majority   of  the                                                                    
conservation  efforts  in  the  state.  He  hoped  that  the                                                                    
legislation would  provide the  department the  resources to                                                                    
manage  the wildlife  in the  state, and  counteract federal                                                                    
9:19:03 AM                                                                                                                    
Senator Dunleavy  asked whether the group  had problems with                                                                    
aspects  of  the  bill  other  than  what  Mr.  Grasser  had                                                                    
Mr. Grasser  replied that  Safari Club  International Alaska                                                                    
Chapter  supported the  legislation as  it was  written, but                                                                    
recognized  that there  were questions  about some  language                                                                    
added  in  Senate   Resources  Committee;  particularly  the                                                                    
Sockeye  salmon  stamp, which  he  understood  had not  been                                                                    
supported by the sport fishing community.                                                                                       
9:19:56 AM                                                                                                                    
Senator  Olson  requested  that Mr.  Grasser  speak  to  the                                                                    
previous  testifiers suggested  language change  on Page  5,                                                                    
line 17.                                                                                                                        
Mr. Grasser responded that his  organization agreed with the                                                                    
suggested language  change. He  noted that "punching  a tag"                                                                    
immediately  upon   capture  was   not  practical   in  some                                                                    
Co-Chair MacKinnon welcomed Senator Bishop to the table.                                                                        
9:21:26 AM                                                                                                                    
ROD  ARNO,  EXECUTIVE   DIRECTOR,  ALASKA  OUTDOOR  COUNCIL,                                                                    
JUNEAU, testified  that the  most pressing  issue concerning                                                                    
the  bill was  related to  game. He  noted that  due to  the                                                                    
massive sale of firearms in  the country there was plenty of                                                                    
money  available  to  the  state  for  wildlife  restoration                                                                    
through  the  Pittman-Robertson   Federal  Aid  in  Wildlife                                                                    
Restoration  Act. He  lamented  that  federal land  managers                                                                    
were  moving  to  mandate  a  restriction  of  predator/prey                                                                    
management,  which  created  conflict   on  state  lands  to                                                                    
provide a harvestable surplus.                                                                                                  
9:23:06 AM                                                                                                                    
Senator  Dunleavy asked  whether  the  organization had  any                                                                    
concerns with the legislation.                                                                                                  
Mr.  Arno  replied  in  the  affirmative,  and  related  the                                                                    
concerns voiced by the previous  testifier about the changes                                                                    
made   to   the   bill  in   Senate   Resources   Committee;                                                                    
specifically, the  Sockeye salmon stamp. He  argued that the                                                                    
public  should  not be  burdened  to  provide the  funds  to                                                                    
restore and already abundant population.                                                                                        
9:24:11 AM                                                                                                                    
RON SOMERVILLE,  TERRITORIAL SPORTSMEN, JUNEAU,  referred to                                                                    
two  documents,  "Hunting/Sport   Fishing  License  Increase                                                                    
Compromise   Proposal,   Updated  4/12/16"   and   "Wildlife                                                                    
Restoration -  PR Funds for Alaska  FY02-FY15 (Projected for                                                                    
FY 16-FY  17)" (copies on  file). He related that  there was                                                                    
approximately $10 million of  available federal dollars that                                                                    
the state was  not able to obligate because it  did not have                                                                    
the  matching  funds.  He  said   that  the  state  had  the                                                                    
potential of  reverting $2 million federal  dollars in FY17,                                                                    
and $6 million  in FY18, if DF&G funds did  not increase. He                                                                    
relayed  that wildlife  populations  in the  state were  not                                                                    
intensely  managed, but  were selectively  managed in  areas                                                                    
where those involved felt would  be most successful. He said                                                                    
that  those management  efforts had  resulted in  more moose                                                                    
and caribou available  for the hunt. He  reiterated the idea                                                                    
of increasing  fees for low  income Alaskans.  He emphasized                                                                    
the  importance of  DF&G money  to the  continuation of  the                                                                    
sport  fish and  wildlife programs.  He opined  that federal                                                                    
aid  money  could  not  be   used  in  intensive  management                                                                    
programs, which required the use  of General Fund dollars or                                                                    
DF&G funds. He  stressed that if the  DF&Gs contribution did                                                                    
not increase  the state would be  forced to cut back  on the                                                                    
intensive management program.                                                                                                   
9:27:55 AM                                                                                                                    
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  directed  committee  attention  to  the                                                                    
document,    "Hunting/Sport    Fishing   License    Increase                                                                    
Compromise  Proposal",  and   asked  whether  the  testifier                                                                    
agreed with column D.                                                                                                           
Mr. Somerville replied in the  affirmative. He said that the                                                                    
column  contained  the  compromise position  that  had  been                                                                    
crafted by the four groups mentioned by Mr. Grasser.                                                                            
9:28:29 AM                                                                                                                    
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  shared  that  the  documents  could  be                                                                    
located on BASIS.                                                                                                               
9:29:30 AM                                                                                                                    
THOR STACEY, ALASKA  PROFESSIONAL HUNTERS, JUNEAU, testified                                                                    
in strong support  of the legislation. He  said that hunting                                                                    
guides  recognized  that  the  resource  was  owned  by  the                                                                    
general  public,  and that  it  was  a privilege  for  their                                                                    
businesses to  have access and  to profit  commercially from                                                                    
the population.  He stated that the  bill listed substantial                                                                    
increases  for  non-resident  hunter's  licenses  and  tags,                                                                    
which  would  come  out  of   the  bottom  line  of  members                                                                    
businesses  and were  appropriate and  within a  fair market                                                                    
value for  the resource.  He expressed  the concern  for the                                                                    
potential  reverting of  federal funds.  He envisioned  that                                                                    
the money  could be spent  by the department to  support the                                                                    
public  process,  which he  believed  was  an important  and                                                                    
well-intended  commitment by  the department.  He said  that                                                                    
the  intensive  management  surcharge benefitted  the  state                                                                    
because it assured that intensive  management was a priority                                                                    
to the department, regardless of  politics. He believed that                                                                    
the fees contributed to a  strong and robust department that                                                                    
would be able to  resist federal overreach and encroachment,                                                                    
and  would result  in  data driven  decisions  in court.  He                                                                    
shared  that   his  organization  was   constantly  fighting                                                                    
against federal  permitting on federal lands,  which was one                                                                    
of  the core  missions of  his  group in  order to  maintain                                                                    
access  to  Alaska's  National   Wildlife  Refuge  and  park                                                                    
preserves. He believed  that the bill would  help to provide                                                                    
state sovereignty.                                                                                                              
9:33:09 AM                                                                                                                    
CHARLES   DERRICK,  THE   CHITINA  DIPNETTERS   ASSOCIATION,                                                                    
FAIRBANKS   (via   teleconference),   testified   that   the                                                                    
association had wanted money from  the $15 fee earmarked for                                                                    
garbage  and  toilet  services, as  well  as  Department  of                                                                    
Transportation  road  maintenance   from  Chitina  to  Haley                                                                    
Creek. He  said that  while the annual  cost for  toilet and                                                                    
garbage  contract should  have remained  steady, the  amount                                                                    
needed  annually for  the road  maintenance between  O'Brien                                                                    
Creek  and   Haley  Creek  could   vary  depending   on  new                                                                    
landslides or terrain.  He stated that for  these reason CDA                                                                    
wanted the  Chitina permit fee  money placed into  a special                                                                    
account with  in DF&G, where  money left over from  one year                                                                    
to fulfill the  three services could accumulate  and be used                                                                    
in  subsequent years.  He  expressed  appreciation that  the                                                                    
language in  the bill had  been tightened up,  but requested                                                                    
that the  special account  be set up  in the  department for                                                                    
the Chitina dip net fee money.                                                                                                  
9:34:35 AM                                                                                                                    
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  shared  that the  garbage  problem  was                                                                    
being discussed.                                                                                                                
Mr. Derrick stated that the Chitina  dip net fee was its own                                                                    
dip net  permit and was  separate from the  Southcentral dip                                                                    
net permit.                                                                                                                     
9:35:37 AM                                                                                                                    
Vice-Chair  Micciche wondered  whether the  Chitina dip  net                                                                    
permit was indicated by a stamp on the license.                                                                                 
Mr.  Derrick replied  that the  permit  would be  physically                                                                    
handed to the person who paid the $15 fee.                                                                                      
9:37:00 AM                                                                                                                    
MATT  ROBUS,  SELF,  JUNEAU, emphasized  the  importance  of                                                                    
raising  fees  in order  to  bring  in  money to  allow  the                                                                    
department to retrieve  all of the sportsman  money that was                                                                    
held and  passed through the  federal government.  He stated                                                                    
that  the  Pittman-Robertson  funds  were  used  to  perform                                                                    
"bread  and butter"  wildlife management,  every day  of the                                                                    
year, and  that the fees had  not been increased in  over 20                                                                    
years.  He  noted that  the  intensive  management that  was                                                                    
required  by state  law,  coupled  with diminishing  General                                                                    
Funds,  highlighted the  departments  need  for the  federal                                                                    
funds.  He  pointed out  to  the  committee that  under  the                                                                    
current  version of  the bill  the  combination hunting  and                                                                    
fishing  license  would  cost   more  than  buying  the  two                                                                    
licenses separately.  He did not  suggest a decrease  in the                                                                    
price  of   the  combination  license,  but   advocated  for                                                                    
coalition level pricing.                                                                                                        
9:39:37 AM                                                                                                                    
Senator Olson remarked  that there had not  been an increase                                                                    
in fees  for 23 years,  and wondered why the  department had                                                                    
not pushed for a fee increase earlier.                                                                                          
Mr.  Robus  replied   that  he  could  not   speak  for  the                                                                    
department because  he did not  work at the  department, but                                                                    
he  indicated   that  the   department  supported   the  fee                                                                    
9:40:11 AM                                                                                                                    
Senator  Olson  noted that  Mr.  Robus  had worked  for  the                                                                    
department for 13 years.                                                                                                        
Mr. Robus responded  that he was with the  department for 27                                                                    
Senator Olson asked  why Mr. Robus had not  advocated for an                                                                    
increase before he retired.                                                                                                     
Mr. Robus  replied that the  reversion of federal  funds had                                                                    
sparked  the interest  in the  fee increase,  which had  not                                                                    
been an issue when he was employed with the department.                                                                         
9:41:10 AM                                                                                                                    
Senator  Dunleavy felt  that  the Pittman-Robertson  funding                                                                    
had  increased  under  the   Obama  Administration  and  had                                                                    
contributed to the need for the fee increase.                                                                                   
9:41:53 AM                                                                                                                    
DOUG  VINCENT-LANG,  SELF, ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference),                                                                    
spoke  in  support of  the  legislation.  He felt  that  the                                                                    
increased  fees  were  necessary   in  order  to  match  the                                                                    
Pittman-Robertson. He  suggested that the language  that had                                                                    
been  added  in  the  previous  committee,  related  to  the                                                                    
intensive management  surcharge as a dedicated  fund, should                                                                    
be retained.  He felt that  the commitment to phase  out the                                                                    
hatchery surcharge should be honored.                                                                                           
Co-Chair MacKinnon CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                     
9:44:11 AM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  DAVE   TALERICO,  SPONSOR,   introduced  the                                                                    
legislation. He  relayed that the  inspiration for  the bill                                                                    
had been  to raise  certain fees  related to  sport fishing,                                                                    
hunting,  and trapping  licenses, a  large portion  of which                                                                    
was non-resident big  game tax. He noted that  the state was                                                                    
facing a financial  crisis and that the  bill could maintain                                                                    
the opportunity  for people to  fish and hunt in  the state.                                                                    
He said  that as  funding disappeared, the  department would                                                                    
be required  to manage more conservatively,  which would cut                                                                    
into hunting and  fishing seasons for Alaskans.  He spoke to                                                                    
the  low  income  license,  which had  been  set  using  the                                                                    
poverty guideline of  $8,200 per year. He  believed that the                                                                    
number needed  to be adjusted  for inflation. He  noted that                                                                    
the  poverty guideline  contained a  loophole which  allowed                                                                    
those receiving any type of  public assistance to purchase a                                                                    
license  at the  low income  rate, and  offered an  anecdote                                                                    
related to  misuse of the  rate. He  noted that he  had paid                                                                    
$49 for his current license,  which would cost $121, were it                                                                    
adjusted  for  inflation.  He said  that  Alaska  had  rates                                                                    
higher than tag fees in other states.                                                                                           
9:49:02 AM                                                                                                                    
Senator  Olson wondered  whether the  sponsor supported  the                                                                    
amendments made to the bill by the previous committee.                                                                          
Representative  Talerico  expressed  concern  regarding  the                                                                    
affordability of the fees. He  said that the addition of the                                                                    
intense management  fee should  be halved for  residents, or                                                                    
that a savings  should be built into  the resident's license                                                                    
9:49:48 AM                                                                                                                    
Senator Olson noted the fee schedule  on Page 5 of the bill.                                                                    
He  queried  why the  fee  for  wolf  hunting had  not  been                                                                    
adjusted to reflect the intense management fee.                                                                                 
Representative  Talerico said  that  he supported  intensive                                                                    
management.  He asserted  that  he had  wanted  the fees  to                                                                    
remain reasonable.                                                                                                              
9:50:45 AM                                                                                                                    
Senator Olson  noted that the  fee for wolverines  was $350,                                                                    
while the fee for wolves was only $30.                                                                                          
Representative  Talerico responded  that hunting  wolves was                                                                    
less of a challenge that pursuing wolverine.                                                                                    
9:51:28 AM                                                                                                                    
Senator Olson  shared that he  was a pilot for  resident and                                                                    
non-resident hunters.  He turned to  Page 4, which  spoke to                                                                    
tagging the  animal immediately upon capture.  He found that                                                                    
the requirement was cumbersome,  particularly when it became                                                                    
time to haul  the meat, which was easier if  the carcass was                                                                    
dismembered. He wondered why the  requirement had been added                                                                    
to the bill.                                                                                                                    
Representative  Talerico said  that  he was  unaware of  the                                                                    
suggestion  to  tag  upon  capture.  He  believed  that  the                                                                    
language   suggested  by   Mr.   Barrette   would  be   more                                                                    
9:52:28 AM                                                                                                                    
JOSHUA   BANKS,   STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE   DAVE   TALERICO,                                                                    
discussed the Sectional Analysis (copy on file):                                                                                
     Sec. 1 - AS 16.05.130                                                                                                  
     Creates a  new subsection that creates  the sustainable                                                                    
     wildlife account as  a subaccount in the  fish and game                                                                    
     fund to  deposit money  obtained through  the intensive                                                                    
     management  surcharge. Requires  this fund  to be  used                                                                    
     for    intensive   management    programs   under    AS                                                                    
     Sec. 2 - AS 16.05.251(a)                                                                                               
     Amends this  section to conform to  Section 25 (raising                                                                    
     resident  license   requirement  age  to  18   and  the                                                                    
     exemption age to 65) of this bill.                                                                                         
     Sec. 3 - AS 16.05.340(a)(1)                                                                                            
     Amends  this  section  to   raise  the  resident  sport                                                                    
     fishing license fee from $15  to $20 and raises the fee                                                                    
     for residents who are blind from $0.25 to $0.50.                                                                           
     Sec. 4 - AS 16.05.340(a)(2)                                                                                            
     Amends  this  section  to raise  the  resident  hunting                                                                    
     license fee from $25 to $35.                                                                                               
     Sec. 5 - AS 16.05.340(a)(3)                                                                                            
     Amends this  section to  raise the  fee for  a resident                                                                    
     hunting and trapping combination license from                                                                              
     $39 to $60.                                                                                                                
     Sec. 6 - AS 16.05.340(a)(4)                                                                                            
     Amends  this section  to  raise  the resident  trapping                                                                    
     license fee from $15 to $25.                                                                                               
     Sec. 7 - AS 16.05.340(a)(5)                                                                                            
     Amends this  section to  raise the  fee for  a resident                                                                    
     hunting and sport fishing  combination license from $39                                                                    
     to $60.                                                                                                                    
     Sec. 8 - AS 16.05.340(a)(6)                                                                                            
     Makes  multiple amendments  to  this section  including                                                                    
     raising the  fee for a resident  hunting, trapping, and                                                                    
     sport  fishing combination  license  from  $53 to  $80.                                                                    
     Changes  low-income  license   eligibility  so  that  a                                                                    
     person  receiving federal  or state  welfare assistance                                                                    
     is   not  eligible   unless   they   meet  the   income                                                                    
     requirement. Also sets the  maximum annual family gross                                                                    
     income  to  match the  federal  poverty  level for  the                                                                    
     individual's household size in Alaska.                                                                                     
     Sec. 9 - AS 16.05.340(a)(7)                                                                                            
     Amends  this  section  to raise  the  four  nonresident                                                                    
     sport fishing license fees.                                                                                                
          14-day license from $50 to $75                                                                                        
          Seven-day license from $30 to $45                                                                                     
          Three-day license is raised from $20 to $30                                                                           
          One-day license from $10 to $15                                                                                       
     Sec. 10 - AS 16.05.340(a)(8)                                                                                           
     Amends  this section  to raise  the annual  nonresident                                                                    
     sport fishing license fee from $100 to $150.                                                                               
     Sec. 11 - AS 16.05.340(a)(9)                                                                                           
     Amends this  section to  raise the  nonresident hunting                                                                    
     license fee from $85 to $130.                                                                                              
     Sec. 12 - AS 16.05.340(a)(11)                                                                                          
     Amends this  section to  raise the  nonresident hunting                                                                    
     and  trapping  combination  license fee  from  $250  to                                                                    
     Sec. 13 - AS 16.05.340(a)(15)                                                                                          
     Amends this section to  raise the following nonresident                                                                    
     big game tag fees.                                                                                                         
          Black bear from $225 to $450                                                                                          
         Brown or grizzly bear from $500 to $1,000                                                                              
          Bison from $450 to $900                                                                                               
          Caribou from $325 to $650                                                                                             
          Deer from $150 to $300                                                                                                
          Elk and goat from $300 to $600                                                                                        
          Moose from $400 to $800                                                                                               
          Sheep from $425 to $850                                                                                               
          Wolverine from $175 to $350                                                                                           
          Musk oxen from $1,100 to $2,200                                                                                       
     This section also amends a  citation to AS 16.05.255 to                                                                    
     more  specifically  point  to subsection  (e)  of  this                                                                    
     Sec. 14 - AS 16.05.340(a)(17)                                                                                          
     Makes multiple  amendments to  this section  by raising                                                                    
     the exemption age for a  resident engaging in waterfowl                                                                    
     hunting without a waterfowl tag  from 16 to 18 and from                                                                    
     60  to  65.  This  section also  raises  the  waterfowl                                                                    
     conservation tag from $5 to $10.                                                                                           
     Sec. 15 - AS 16.05.340(a)(19)                                                                                          
     Amends this section to increase  the small game hunting                                                                    
     license fee from $20 to $30.                                                                                               
     Sec. 16 - AS 16.05.340(a)(20)                                                                                          
     Amends this  section to increase the  nonresident alien                                                                    
     hunting license fee from $300 to $600.                                                                                     
     Sec. 17 - AS 16.05.340(a)(21)                                                                                          
     Amends this section to  raise the following nonresident                                                                    
     alien big game tag fees.                                                                                                   
          Black bear from $300 to $600                                                                                          
          Brown or grizzly bear and bison from $650 to                                                                          
          Caribou from $425 to $850                                                                                             
          Deer from $200 to $400                                                                                                
          Elk and goat from $400 to $800                                                                                        
          Moose from $500 to $1,000                                                                                             
          Musk oxen from $1,500 to $3,000                                                                                       
          Sheep from $550 to $1,100                                                                                             
          Wolverine from $250 to $500                                                                                           
     This section also amends a  citation to AS 16.05.255 to                                                                    
     more  specifically  point  to subsection  (e)  of  this                                                                    
     Sec. 18 - AS 16.05.340(a)(22)                                                                                          
     Amends this section to reinstate  a $15 Chitina dip net                                                                    
     fishing permit fee.                                                                                                        
     Sec. 19 - AS 16.05.340(a)(23)                                                                                          
     Amends this  section to  raise the  resident anadromous                                                                    
     king salmon tag  from $10 to $15. This  section is also                                                                    
     amended  to conform  to  Sections  3 (raising  resident                                                                    
     blind   fee)   and   25   (raising   resident   license                                                                    
     requirement age to  18 and the exemption age  to 65) of                                                                    
     this bill.                                                                                                                 
     Sec. 20 - AS 16.05.340(a)(24)                                                                                          
     Amends  this  section  to  raise  all  six  nonresident                                                                    
     anadromous king salmon tag fees.                                                                                           
          One-day tag from $10 to $15                                                                                           
          Three-day tag from $20 to $30                                                                                         
          Seven-day tag from $30 to $45                                                                                         
          14-day tag from $50 to $75                                                                                            
          Annual tag from $100 to $150                                                                                          
          Annual nonresident military tag from $20 to $30                                                                       
     Sec. 21 - AS 16.05.340(a)                                                                                              
     Creates  new   sections  to   establish  fees   for  an                                                                    
     anadromous  sockeye  salmon  tag   for  the  Kenai  and                                                                    
     Kasilof rivers'  watersheds. Section (a)(27)  creates a                                                                    
     resident tag  fee of  $15 and exempts  a person  who is                                                                    
     blind,  under the  age of  18, a  resident 65  years or                                                                    
     older, a  disabled veteran, or  qualifies for  the low-                                                                    
     income  license  from being  required  to  have a  tag.                                                                    
     Section (a)(28) creates  nonresident anadromous sockeye                                                                    
     salmon tags  and exempts a  person under the age  of 16                                                                    
     from being required to have a tag.                                                                                         
          One-day tag is $15                                                                                                    
          Three-day tag is $30                                                                                                  
          Seven-day tag is $45                                                                                                  
          14-day tag is $75                                                                                                     
          Annual tag is $150                                                                                                    
          Annual nonresident military tag is $30                                                                                
     Sec. 22 - AS 16.05.340(i)                                                                                              
     Amends this  section to delete a  reference relating to                                                                    
     the hatchery  surcharge that will go  into effect under                                                                    
     Section 35 when the hatchery bonds are paid in full.                                                                       
     Sec. 23 - AS 16.05.340                                                                                                 
     Creates  a  new  section  to  establish  the  intensive                                                                    
     management surcharge  that must be paid  in addition to                                                                    
     each fee for a hunting  license. The fee for a resident                                                                    
     is  $10 and  the fee  for  a nonresident  is $30.  This                                                                    
     section  also   creates  an  exemption  for   a  person                                                                    
     eligible for  a low-income license from  being required                                                                    
     to pay the surcharge.                                                                                                      
     Sec. 24 - AS 16.05.352                                                                                                 
     Adds  a new  section that  creates an  annual voluntary                                                                    
     fish  and  game  conservation  decal  that  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Department  of Fish  & Game  (ADF&G)  will produce  and                                                                    
     make  available  to  the   public.  This  section  also                                                                    
     directs the Department to provide  for the selection of                                                                    
     design  for  the  conservation   decals  and  that  the                                                                    
     commissioner  may   produce  the  quantity   of  decals                                                                    
     considered appropriate.  The fee for this  decal is $20                                                                    
     per person  and the  Legislature may  appropriate these                                                                    
     funds to fish and wildlife conservation programs.                                                                          
     Sec. 25 - AS 16.05.400                                                                                                 
     Amends this  section to  raise the  age required  for a                                                                    
     resident to have a sport  fishing, hunting, or trapping                                                                    
     license  from  16 to  18.  Provisions  in this  section                                                                    
     regarding  nonresidents are  not  amended. Also  amends                                                                    
     this  section to  raise the  age from  60 to  65 for  a                                                                    
     resident to obtain  an exemption from paying  a fee for                                                                    
     a sport fishing, hunting,  or trapping license. Creates                                                                    
     a   requirement  that   residents   that  obtain   this                                                                    
     exemption must renew it every three years.                                                                                 
     Sec. 26-30 - AS 16.05.403-16.05.415                                                                                    
     Makes  amendments  to   AS  16.05.403,  16.05.405,  and                                                                    
     16.05.415 to  conform with the  change made  in Section                                                                    
     25 regarding  the license exemption for  residents over                                                                    
     the age of 65.                                                                                                             
          Sections 27 and 28 amend the fishing and hunting                                                                      
          by proxy statute by allowing a resident to hunt                                                                       
          or sport fish on behalf of a person with a                                                                            
          developmental disability.                                                                                             
     Sec. 31 - AS 16.10.570                                                                                                 
     Amends this section  by amending the title  and add new                                                                    
     requirements  under   this  section.  ADF&G   with  the                                                                    
     Department   of  Transportation   and  the   Department                                                                    
     Natural  Resources will  need to  maintain and  improve                                                                    
     state-owned  land used  to access  the Chitina  dip net                                                                    
     fishery  and maintain  and operate  sanitary facilities                                                                    
     for people using the dip net fishery.                                                                                      
     Sec. 32 - Repealed Statute                                                                                             
     Repeals  the  two   sections  regarding  the  intensive                                                                    
     management  surcharge in  AS  16.05.130(g) (Section  1)                                                                    
     and  16.05.340(k) (Section  23) after  the sunset  date                                                                    
     set in Section 37.                                                                                                         
     Sec. 33 - Repealed Statute                                                                                                 
     Repeals  sections  in  statute  relating  to  the  fish                                                                    
     hatchery  bonds  under AS  16.05.100(2),  16.05.130(e),                                                                    
     16.05.130(f),   16.05.340(j),   and  AS   37.15.765   -                                                                    
     Sec. 34 - Uncodified Law                                                                                               
     Adds a new  section to the uncodified law  of Alaska to                                                                    
     ensure  that residents  that are  eligible for  a sport                                                                    
     fishing, hunting,  or trapping license  exemption under                                                                    
     AS 16.05.400(b) before the effective  date of this bill                                                                    
     will continue  to be eligible  for the  exemption. This                                                                    
     section also requires  residents currently eligible for                                                                    
     this identification  card to renew the  card by January                                                                    
     1, 2020,  and that ADF&G  must notify a  current holder                                                                    
     of the card that they must renew the card.                                                                                 
     Sec. 35 - Uncodified Law and Conditional Effect                                                                        
     Adds a  new section requiring the  commissioner of fish                                                                    
     and game  to notify  the revisor  of statutes  when all                                                                    
     costs associated  with the  fish hatchery  bonds issued                                                                    
     under  AS  37.15.765  -  37.15.799  are  paid  and  all                                                                    
     obligations are fully met  and discharged. This section                                                                    
     also establishes that  Sections 22 and 33  will only go                                                                    
     into effect  if the notice  is given to the  revisor of                                                                    
     Sec. 36 - Effective Date                                                                                                   
     Adds a new section stating  that the effective date for                                                                    
     Sections 22  and 33 will  be January 1 of  the calendar                                                                    
     year  following the  year of  notice under  Sec. 35  of                                                                    
     this bill.                                                                                                                 
     Sec. 37 - Sunset Date                                                                                                  
     Creates a sunset date of December 31, 2022 for the                                                                         
     intensive management surcharge language in Sections 1                                                                      
     and 23.                                                                                                                    
     Sec. 38 - Effective Date                                                                                               
     Creates an effective date for the bill, except as                                                                          
     provided in Sections 36 and 37, to be January 1, 2017.                                                                     
10:00:31 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair MacKinnon  expressed concern with certain  areas of                                                                    
the bill. She  relayed that amendments would be  due by noon                                                                    
the  following day.  She said  that the  combination fishing                                                                    
license fee  needed to be  resolved, as well as  the Sockeye                                                                    
salmon  stamp.  She  added that  the  committee  would  also                                                                    
discuss  the kill  site tagging  issue and  the Chitina  dip                                                                    
netting matter.                                                                                                                 
10:01:16 AM                                                                                                                   
Senator Hoffman wondered why seniors  were required to renew                                                                    
their licenses every 3 years.                                                                                                   
Representative  Talerico responded  that people  were moving                                                                    
out  of state  after they  retired, while  keeping ahold  of                                                                    
their permanent  licenses. He said  that people who  were no                                                                    
longer  residents were  using these  licenses  on a  regular                                                                    
basis, the renewal would put a stop to that misuse.                                                                             
10:01:57 AM                                                                                                                   
Senator Olson asked what the current law allowed.                                                                               
Representative  Talerico   replied  that  the   current  law                                                                    
allowed for a  permanent license to be issued  after the age                                                                    
of 60.                                                                                                                          
10:02:09 AM                                                                                                                   
Senator Hoffman said that, under  current law, if the senior                                                                    
could not prove residency the license would be void.                                                                            
Representative Talerico responded that  once the license had                                                                    
been established as a permanent  license, whether or not the                                                                    
person lives in the state, as  long as they had the physical                                                                    
license it would be identified as a permanent license.                                                                          
10:03:03 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair  MacKinnon   asked  whether   grandfather  language                                                                    
existed  in  the  bill  to protect  the  licenses  that  had                                                                    
already been  issued. She queried  how the seniors  would be                                                                    
informed of the 3 year  update requirement and whether their                                                                    
license needed and update.                                                                                                      
Representative  Talerico  assumed that  already  established                                                                    
licenses would be  grandfathered in, but he  believed that a                                                                    
new license  would need to  be created that would  require a                                                                    
renewal; he  believed that the  permanent licenses  that had                                                                    
been issued  did not  have an  expiration date.  He lamented                                                                    
that  he  was  not  exactly  sure how  the  issue  would  be                                                                    
10:03:48 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair MacKinnon  asserted that the committee  would craft                                                                    
language that resolved the issue.                                                                                               
10:04:22 AM                                                                                                                   
Senator  Hoffman wondered  how  the transition  from the  60                                                                    
year age limit, to the 65 year age limit, would be handled.                                                                     
Representative Talerico said that  everyone that had already                                                                    
received the license  would be grandfathered in,  and on the                                                                    
effective date the 65 year age limit would be employed.                                                                         
10:05:29 AM                                                                                                                   
Vice-Chair  Micciche queried  the  terminology  of the  word                                                                    
"capture" in the language of the bill.                                                                                          
Senator  Olson believed  that "capture'  was a  federal term                                                                    
for killing an animal while hunting.                                                                                            
10:06:08 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair  Kelly asked  whether schedules  could be  provided                                                                    
that detailed  the variety and  costs of  commercial fishing                                                                    
Representative Talerico replied that  he had not looked into                                                                    
commercial fishing permits.                                                                                                     
10:06:32 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair Kelly  requested the  information before  noon that                                                                    
10:06:41 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair  MacKinnon   restated  that  the   committee  would                                                                    
objectively examine  the issue  and would remain  neutral on                                                                    
the "fish wars".                                                                                                                
10:07:03 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair  Kelly interjected  that when  sport fishing  rates                                                                    
were  substantially  raised,  and commercial  fishing  rates                                                                    
were not, neutrality on the issue was questionable.                                                                             
Co-Chair   MacKinnon  appreciated   the  conversation.   She                                                                    
understood that the issue was  a sensitive one, and that the                                                                    
committee would work toward parity moving forward.                                                                              
10:07:47 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair  Kelly  suggested  that the  bill  should  strictly                                                                    
pertain to game hunting, in order to avoid the fish wars.                                                                       
10:08:07 AM                                                                                                                   
Senator  Bishop  requested a  meeting  with  the sponsor  to                                                                    
discuss the wolf tag fee for non-residents.                                                                                     
10:08:45 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair MacKinnon  wanted to understand  the considerations                                                                    
that resulted in the amendments from the prior committee.                                                                       
10:09:07 AM                                                                                                                   
Vice-Chair   Micciche   explained   that  there   had   been                                                                    
excitement surrounding the groups  that had come together in                                                                    
agreement over the  fees. He believed that  more work needed                                                                    
to be done  on the fish related issues. He  relayed that the                                                                    
working groups  had largely  worked on  the game  issues. He                                                                    
hoped  that work  could  be done  with  a fisheries  working                                                                    
group to arrive at a similar level of agreement.                                                                                
10:09:50 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair  MacKinnon noted  that the  spreadsheet outlined  a                                                                    
reduction  in sports  residency  increases,  a reduction  in                                                                    
musk oxen take, and an  increase in the intensive management                                                                    
Representative  Talerico  replied that  he  had  not been  a                                                                    
large supporter  on intensive management. He  understood why                                                                    
it had been  added to the bill, but thought  that the figure                                                                    
was high for  his residents. He stated that  he would prefer                                                                    
that the  figure be cut in  half for residents, or  that the                                                                    
resident hunting license fee be lowered.                                                                                        
10:11:03 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair MacKinnon spoke of raising  the age from 16, to 18,                                                                    
from  current  statute.  She  understood  that  non-resident                                                                    
hunters   were  being   treated  differently   on  the   age                                                                    
requirement than residents. She  wondered whether this could                                                                    
present an equal rights issue.                                                                                                  
Representative Talerico  responded that  he could  not speak                                                                    
to the issue.                                                                                                                   
10:11:36 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair MacKinnon looked at Page 2, lines 19 and 20:                                                                           
     (B) residents under 18 years of age and nonresidents                                                                       
     [PERSONS] under 16 years of age to participate in                                                                          
     sport fishing;                                                                                                             
Vice-Chair Micciche explained  that there had been  a lot of                                                                    
changes  made, and  referred to  the summary  of changes  in                                                                    
member files (copy on file).                                                                                                    
Co-Chair  MacKinnon explained  that  she  wanted members  to                                                                    
have  as much  information as  possible, concerning  why the                                                                    
prior committee  made the changes, when  crafting amendments                                                                    
to the legislation.                                                                                                             
Vice-Chair Micciche  noted the legal services  memorandum on                                                                    
the Carlson  case (copy  on file). He  did not  believe that                                                                    
the  memo dealt  with the  differences between  resident and                                                                    
non-resident fees.                                                                                                              
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  solicited  further  concerns  from  the                                                                    
committee.  She added  that her  staff would  work with  the                                                                    
sponsor to craft  a workable bill for all  sides involved in                                                                    
the use of the resource.                                                                                                        
10:14:55 AM                                                                                                                   
Senator   Olson   wondered   whether  there   could   be   a                                                                    
consideration made for someone for an elder by proxy.                                                                           
10:16:08 AM                                                                                                                   
BRUCE DALE,  DIRECTOR, WILDLIFE CONSERVATION,  DEPARTMENT OF                                                                    
FISH AND  GAME (via teleconference), explained  that current                                                                    
statute provided  for proxy hunting  for anyone 65  years of                                                                    
age or older.                                                                                                                   
10:16:38 AM                                                                                                                   
TOM BROOKOVER, DIRECTOR, DIVISION  OF SPORT FISH, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  FISH AND  GAME (via  teleconference), was  available for                                                                    
10:16:54 AM                                                                                                                   
BERNARD   CHASTAIN,   MAJOR,   ALASKA   WILDLIFE   TROOPERS,                                                                    
ANCHORAGE  (via  teleconference),  was available  to  answer                                                                    
enforcement related questions.                                                                                                  
10:17:13 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair   MacKinnon   noted   that    there   was   not   a                                                                    
representative from the Department of Law present.                                                                              
Mr. Brooks offered to expound  upon several issues raised by                                                                    
the committee.  He spoke to  the prior  committee's addition                                                                    
of the Chitina  dip net permit language. He  said that there                                                                    
would be  a charge for  the documents, which  were currently                                                                    
free, and that  they would be accounted  for autonomously in                                                                    
the Fish and  Game fund. He suggested  a future conversation                                                                    
related to  how much  money was generated  by the  fees, how                                                                    
the  expenditures occurred;  all  of the  funding that  went                                                                    
into the Fish and Game  fund was subject to appropriation by                                                                    
the legislature,  and he believed  that there was  a process                                                                    
in  place to  track  for Chitina  dip  net permits,  Sockeye                                                                    
salmon  stamps,  or  anything  that  the  legislature  moved                                                                    
forward. He  said that the  fund was dedicated and  that the                                                                    
dip netting fee would be  separately accounted for in a sub-                                                                    
account of the fund.                                                                                                            
10:18:27 AM                                                                                                                   
Co-Chair   MacKinnon    corrected   that   the    fund   was                                                                    
"designated", and not "dedicated".                                                                                              
Mr. Brooks  rebutted that  the Fish and  Game fund  had been                                                                    
established at the beginning of  statehood, was required for                                                                    
the   federal   match,    and   was   appropriately   termed                                                                    
10:19:01 AM                                                                                                                   
Vice-Chair  Micciche   asked  whether  the   department  had                                                                    
accounted  for  families   consolidating  payments  for  dip                                                                    
netting fees.                                                                                                                   
Mr.  Brooks  replied that  the  criteria  for "a  household"                                                                    
would  apply  to  families.  He  estimated  that  there  was                                                                    
approximately 12,000  people that  fell under  the criteria.                                                                    
He  said   that  the  numbers   had  not  been   refined  in                                                                    
anticipation  of how  people  might  attempt to  consolidate                                                                    
their fees.                                                                                                                     
CSHB 137(FIN)am was HEARD and  HELD in committee for further                                                                    

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 137 Public TEstimony Vincent-Lang.pdf SFIN 4/13/2016 9:00:00 AM
HB 137
HB 137 Public Testimony Hansen.pdf SFIN 4/13/2016 9:00:00 AM
HB 137
HB 137 SCS CSHB 137(RES) Responses to Questions for Senate Resources 3-28-16.pdf SFIN 4/13/2016 9:00:00 AM
HB 137
HB222 Background Information.pdf SFIN 4/13/2016 9:00:00 AM
HB 222
HB222 Sponsor Statement.pdf SFIN 4/13/2016 9:00:00 AM
HB 222
HB 137 Hunting-Sport Fishing License Increase Compromise Proposal - Sommerville.pdf SFIN 4/13/2016 9:00:00 AM
HB 137
HB 137 Wildllife Resoration - PR Funds for Alaska FY02 - FY15.pdf SFIN 4/13/2016 9:00:00 AM
HB 137
HB 137 SCS CSHB 137(RES) Sectional Analysis.pdf SFIN 4/13/2016 9:00:00 AM
HB 137