Legislature(2017 - 2018)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

03/02/2017 01:30 PM LABOR & COMMERCE

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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SB 4 NON-CHEMICAL BARBERING;HAIR BRAIDING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ SB 51 EXTEND BOARD OF VETERINARY EXAMINERS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 15 E-CIGS: SALE TO AND POSSESSION BY MINOR TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 15(L&C) Out of Committee
+= SB 29 REPEAL WORKERS' COMP APPEALS COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 29 Out of Committee
          SB   4-NON-CHEMICAL BARBERING;HAIR BRAIDING                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:56:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO   reconvened  the   meeting  and   announced  the                                                               
consideration  of SSSB  4.  She  stated that  this  is the  first                                                               
hearing  and the  intention is  to hear  the bill,  take member's                                                               
questions, and hold the bill for further consideration.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:56:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR PETER MICCICHE, Alaska State Legislature, sponsor of                                                                    
SSSB 4, introduced the bill speaking to the following sponsor                                                                   
statement: [Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     During this  time of recession in  Alaska's economy, we                                                                    
     are  evaluating the  balance  between quality  training                                                                    
     programs and  situations where government  has hindered                                                                    
     commerce  and  the  ability  for  Alaskans  to  earn  a                                                                    
     living.  Revisions to  the  barbers' and  hairdressers'                                                                    
     statutes  provide  several   opportunities  to  correct                                                                    
     these imbalances.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Under Title  8 licensed professionals regulated  by the                                                                    
     Board of Barbers and Hairdressers  (Board) must work in                                                                    
     a licensed  shop. These  students or  practitioners are                                                                    
     required  by  statute  to conspicuously  display  their                                                                    
     licenses, however the shop owner  is not. This inequity                                                                    
     has led  to employees being fined  because, unbeknownst                                                                    
     to them, the shop owner's license had lapsed.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     SSSB4 requires the shop  owner to conspicuously display                                                                    
     the  shop   license,  as  well   as  the   licenses  of                                                                    
     employees, renters and students.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     By   statute,  an   individual  must   obtain  a   shop                                                                    
     certification  from  the  Department  of  Environmental                                                                    
     Conservation (DEC)  before they receive a  license from                                                                    
     the Board  of Barbers and  Hairdressers. The DEC  is no                                                                    
     longer   providing   certifications   due   to   budget                                                                    
     reductions.  SSSB4  will  allow a  DEC  standard  self-                                                                    
     certification process regulated through the Board.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Additionally,  SSSB4  creates  two new  license  types.                                                                    
     First  is a  non-chemical barber's  license. Currently,                                                                    
     all barbers  are held  to nearly  the same  standard as                                                                    
     hairdressers  and   are  required  to   have  practical                                                                    
     training  in chemical  waving, chemical  straightening,                                                                    
     bleaching, and coloring.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     They must complete  a total of 1,650  training hours or                                                                    
     3,000   apprentice  hours,   which  is   equivalent  to                                                                    
     hairdressers.  SSSB4   will  open  the  door   to  more                                                                    
     Alaskans   interested  in   joining  the   industry  by                                                                    
     balancing  training   requirements  and   reducing  the                                                                    
     burden.  In essence,  the bill  provides more  economic                                                                    
     opportunity  and  less  government-induced  burden  for                                                                    
     hard  working   Alaskans.  The   higher-level  barber's                                                                    
     license  will remain  available  to those  who wish  to                                                                    
     perform chemical procedures.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Finally,  SSSB4  will  create a  specific  license  for                                                                    
     braiding; a trade that has  been growing in popularity.                                                                    
     Braiders are  also being held  to the same  standard as                                                                    
     hairdressers, including  the same  1,650 hours  or more                                                                    
     of practical  training in addition  to a  written exam.                                                                    
     This bill will welcome  more workers into the industry,                                                                    
     creating  jobs  and  a stronger  economy  by  balancing                                                                    
     training  requirements  to  the  specific  demands  and                                                                    
     required skills of the trade.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:59:55 PM                                                                                                                    
RACHEL HANKE, Staff, Senator Micciche, Alaska State Legislature,                                                                
delivered the following sectional analysis of SSSB 4.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     AS  08.01.065(h)  removes   the  requirement  that  the                                                                  
     Department  of  Environmental Conservation  inspect  or                                                                    
     regulate   barbering,   hairdressing,  manicuring,   or                                                                    
     esthetics establishments.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2, 5, 10-11, 13, 16-18, 20, 22-24                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     Add  the  term "hair  braiding"  or  "hair braider"  to                                                                    
     statute.                                                                                                                   
     Section 3                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     AS  08.13.030(c)  removes the  ability  of  the DEC  to                                                                  
     investigate the  practices of a person,  shop or school                                                                    
     in  the fields  of barbering,  hairdressing, manicuring                                                                    
     or esthetics, it also adds  hair braiding to this list.                                                                    
     Adds  new subsection  that will  continue to  allow the                                                                    
     DEC  to   investigate  practices  for   body  piercing,                                                                    
     tattooing, and permanent cosmetic coloring.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     AS 08.13.040 adds a new  subsection that will not allow                                                                  
     the  board  to  administer  an exam  to  an  individual                                                                    
     applying  for a  limited non-chemical  barber's license                                                                    
     that  tests  a  person's  knowledge  in  the  areas  of                                                                    
     chemical   processes   such    as   permanent   waving,                                                                    
     bleaching, coloring, or chemical straightening.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     AS 08.13.080(a)  specifies that courses  and curriculum                                                                  
     required for  a barber's examination may  be limited to                                                                    
     non-chemical barbering.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     AS   08.13.080  adds   a   new   subsection  (e)   that                                                                  
     establishes  the application  requirements  for a  hair                                                                    
     braiding license.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     AS  08.13.082(a) removes  the ability  of the  board to                                                                  
     require a  person applying  for a  limited non-chemical                                                                    
     barber's license  to have  practical hours  or training                                                                    
     in   chemical  processes,   which  includes   permanent                                                                    
     waving, bleaching, coloring or chemical straightening.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 9                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
     AS  08.13.100(a)  adds  a sentence  that  requires  the                                                                  
     board  to  issue  a  hair   braiding  license  to  each                                                                    
     applicant  who  satisfied  all  requirements  under  AS                                                                    
     08.13.080(d).                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 12                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     AS 08.13.100  adds new subsection (f)  that directs the                                                                  
     board to  adopt regulations  allowing for  the practice                                                                    
     of  non-chemical   barbering  and  requires   that  the                                                                    
     limitation be stated on the license.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 14                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     AS 08.13.120  adds new  subsection instructs  the board                                                                  
     to adopt  regulations for standards of  cleanliness for                                                                    
     licensed   establishments,  not   including  tattooing,                                                                    
     piercing or permanent cosmetic coloring.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 15                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     AS 08.13.130(a) is  amended to state that  a shop owner                                                                  
     is responsible  for conspicuous  display of  the shop's                                                                    
     license,  as  well  as employees'  and  booth  renters'                                                                    
     licenses.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 19                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     AS 08.13.185(a)  requires that the  board set  fees for                                                                  
     initial hair braiding licenses and renewals.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 21                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     AS  08.13.210(a)   establishes  that  the   board  will                                                                  
     supervise health and  sanitary conditions in barbering,                                                                    
     hairdressing, hair  braiding, manicuring  and esthetics                                                                    
     shops, maintains  that DEC  will supervise  the tattoo,                                                                    
     piercing and cosmetic coloring shops.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 25                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     AS  44.46.020(a)  removes   the  requirement  that  DEC                                                                  
     regulate  the standards  of cleanliness  and sanitation                                                                    
     in  barbering,  hairdressing, manicuring  or  esthetics                                                                    
     shops.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 26                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     Uncodified  law directs  the board  to adopt  necessary                                                                  
     regulations to  implement these changes but  not before                                                                    
     the effective date.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 27                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     Uncodified  law -  provides that  section 26  will take                                                                  
     effect immediately.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 28                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
     Uncodified law - provides that all other sections take                                                                   
     effect January 1, 2018.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COSTELLO asked  if there  is a  definition in  statute for                                                               
hair braiding.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. HANKE read the definition on page 9, lines 1-4, of the bill.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  asked if the  bill covers environments such  as a                                                               
state fair where a volunteer might be braiding.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HANKE said  she  would  check with  the  department but  she                                                               
believes they would need a license.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE  clarified that  the  bill  doesn't expand  the                                                               
universe  of  those  required  to   have  a  license.  It  simply                                                               
streamlines the requirements for professional hair braiders.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:04:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  asked if a  hairdresser could hire  someone right                                                               
now who  knows how to braid  but isn't licensed. If  so, the bill                                                               
would increase the requirements for hair braiders.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE  emphasized that the bill  reduces requirements.                                                               
A hairdresser  can't hire someone to  work in their shop  if they                                                               
haven't  been through  the training.  He said  the bill  tries to                                                               
balance  the  training  hours   against  DEC's  requirements  for                                                               
hygiene.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES asked  for an explanation of how it  would work to                                                               
have the board supervise health  and sanitary conditions for hair                                                               
braiding.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHRISTINA CARPENTER, Director,  Division of Environmental Health,                                                               
Department  of   Environmental  Conservation   (DEC),  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska, explained that with FY2016  budget reductions DEC neither                                                               
issues memos of non-objection for  a business to operate nor does                                                               
inspections as a result of complaints.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE  said  he  envisions   that  none  of  the  DEC                                                               
standards will  be reduced.  The board will  develop a  system of                                                               
self-certification to  maintain those same standards  and provide                                                               
the same protections.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES  asked   if  the  board  has   the  authority  to                                                               
investigate complaints.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE  clarified  that DEC  isn't  relinquishing  its                                                               
authority if there is a hygiene complaint.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:09:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MEYER  asked if  hair braiders  in a  booth at  the state                                                               
fair and similar venues would be required to have a license.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:10:22 PM                                                                                                                    
JANEY HOVENDEN, Director, Division  of Corporations, Business and                                                               
Professional  Licensing, Department  of  Commerce, Community  and                                                               
Economic Development (DCCED), advised  that a volunteer would not                                                               
need a license;  they are only required when  someone is braiding                                                               
for commercial purposes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER asked  if it's a commercial operation  if the booth                                                               
is charging $10 for braiding.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. HOVENDON said she would follow up with the answer.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MEYER  said he  likes  the  South Dakota  approach  that                                                               
doesn't require training or licensing for hair braiding.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE restated  that there  are some  expectations of                                                               
hygiene  and  cleanliness  that   need  to  be  balanced  against                                                               
requirements for  training. He  acknowledged that  fewer training                                                               
hours is the  committee's discretion and offered  his belief that                                                               
no training would be inadequate.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER asked  how many hours of training  would get Alaska                                                               
to an A or B grade.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE reviewed  a handout that indicated  that a state                                                               
would receive  an A if it  didn't require any training  hours, an                                                               
A- if it  required 6 hours of  training, and a B+  if it required                                                               
16 hours of training. He said he  isn't shooting for an A in this                                                               
context  because  there  is some  responsibility  to  ensure  the                                                               
health and wellbeing of Alaskans.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MEYER  asked  if  that  organization  also  grades  non-                                                               
chemical barbers.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:15:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MICCICHE  said the document  he is citing  only addresses                                                               
braiding.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MEYER  commented on  not  imposing  an undue  burden  on                                                               
barbers with 35 hours of training  and added that he would accept                                                               
what the bill proposes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MICCICHE  said  he  trusts  the  Board  of  Barbers  and                                                               
Hairdressers and he believes their  approach has been reasonable.                                                               
He  asked the  committee to  also take  a reasonable  approach to                                                               
ensure adequate public safety.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:16:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GARDNER   said  it  seems   that  the  shop   owner  has                                                               
responsibility for  basic cleanliness of the  facility and making                                                               
sure  that workers  practice basic  sterilizing  for brushes  and                                                               
combs.  She said  she  doesn't see  a lot  of  public purpose  in                                                               
requiring 35  hours training  for someone  who is  braiding hair.                                                               
She expressed  concern that  DEC doesn't  do any  inspections and                                                               
related  a personal  experience  that demonstrates  the need  for                                                               
them.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE pointed out that  inspections are not being done                                                               
now, and individuals are licensed  on their professional conduct.                                                               
The  shop  is  licensed,  and  the  professional  hairdresser  is                                                               
licensed. Should  the bill pass,  barbers and braiders  will have                                                               
their own standards  of conduct and professionalism,  but all the                                                               
licenses require  some level  of training.  He urged  balance and                                                               
cautioned against  amending the  bill to  zero hours  of training                                                               
for braiders.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:20:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  asked if  the 35  hours is all  on hygiene  or if                                                               
part of it is instruction in braiding.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE said Section 7  lays out the health, safety, and                                                               
skill training for a hair braider.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES mentioned  the health  concern of  detecting lice                                                               
and scalp infections that a braider would need to be aware of.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:22:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR GARDNER asked, instead of  identifying a number of hours,                                                               
if  it  makes  sense  to  say a  person  has  to  demonstrate  an                                                               
appropriate understanding  of the health, safety,  and sanitation                                                               
practices  for the  particular work.  It would  be different  for                                                               
someone who does braiding than someone who does chemical dying.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE  clarified that all certifications  are based on                                                               
hours of training. The bill  reduces the number of hours required                                                               
for barbers and  hair braiders to be certified from  1,650 to 35.                                                               
The board  has determined  that this  is the  number of  hours to                                                               
adequately train  an individual to  understand the trade  as well                                                               
as public health, safety, and sanitation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARDNER  observed  that  this  can  be  an  entry  level                                                               
business  and  not  everyone  has  to  have  the  same  level  of                                                               
expertise.  A  haircut  can  cost  $100 or  $10  and  the  market                                                               
accommodates that.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES  asked  what  it  would  cost  for  35  hours  of                                                               
instruction.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MICCICHE deferred the question  to the board and reminded                                                               
the  committee that  the bill  is  about reducing  the number  of                                                               
hours of instruction  from 1,650 to 35. He reiterated  that it is                                                               
important to recognize basic policies  and procedures that ensure                                                               
public safety.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:26:02 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO  asked Ms.  Hovenden if the  Board of  Barbers and                                                               
Hairdressers is operating in the red  or black and if she had any                                                               
concerns to share with the committee.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. HOVENDEN  advised that the  board ended the first  quarter of                                                               
FY2017  $460,688 in  the black,  and that  there are  no concerns                                                               
about the board's financial health.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:27:15 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO opened public testimony on SSSB 4.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:27:33 PM                                                                                                                    
WILLIE  CANADY,  Member,  Board   of  Barbers  and  Hairdressers,                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska,  explained  that hair  braiding  is  meshing,                                                               
weaving,  and in-weaving  natural hair  without using  chemicals.                                                               
She  maintained  that 35  hours  of  instruction is  adequate  to                                                               
ensure  an  understanding of  safety,  sanitation,  and hair  and                                                               
scalp analysis. The bill seeks  to encourage braiders to come out                                                               
of the  shadows and ensure  health and safety for  customers. She                                                               
said many braiders operate out  of their homes because they don't                                                               
want to  pay for 1,600  hours of  instruction when 85  percent of                                                               
the curriculum  doesn't apply to  braiding. She pointed  out that                                                               
the bill  does not  cover advanced  techniques such  as full-head                                                               
weaving, just braiding.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked  her to email photos to  illustrate the type                                                               
of braiding under discussion.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER  said he's come to  agree with the sponsor  that 35                                                               
hours of training  is adequate, but he wonders how  much it would                                                               
cost  and  how  many  places  in  Alaska  provide  this  type  of                                                               
training.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. CANADY said  everyone she's spoken with  agrees that anything                                                               
under 50 hours is sufficient for braiding certification.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked her to  forward the letters discussing hours                                                               
of  instruction   to  her  office.   She  also  asked   what  the                                                               
instruction costs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. CANADY estimated that 50 hours would cost about $600.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked what braiders charge.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CANADY said  it depends on what the client  wants, but it can                                                               
cost $350-$500 for  a job that takes two days  to complete. Basic                                                               
cornrows without any design costs $25-$50.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked how many training facilities are in Alaska.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. CANADY replied there are none.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO  asked where  in Alaska you  could receive  the 35                                                               
hours of training.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. CANADY said any hair school or shop with an apprenticeship.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:37:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GARDNER  asked who  is  responsible  for evaluating  and                                                               
approving the quality of the trainers.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CANADY said  you need  to be  a licensed  instructor in  the                                                               
state of Alaska.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARDNER asked who licenses instructors in Alaska.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. CANADY  replied the  Board of  Barbers and  Hairdressers. She                                                               
also   discussed   instruction  requirements   for   non-chemical                                                               
barbering. She  suggested looking at the  curriculum and removing                                                               
the portions  related to the  use of  chemicals to tell  what the                                                               
appropriate  number of  hours of  instruction would  be for  non-                                                               
chemical  barbers, which  involves learning  to use  scissors and                                                               
give a shave.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:38:43 PM                                                                                                                    
JEANNINE  JABAAY,  Member,  Board of  Barbers  and  Hairdressers,                                                               
Hope, Alaska, stated  that SSSB 4 will help  grow commerce, clean                                                               
up the  statutes, and remove burdensome  regulation. Creating new                                                               
licenses  for  hair  braiding  and  non-chemical  barbering  will                                                               
increase job opportunities. She  said board members and licensees                                                               
are  very  concerned  about  cross  contamination  of  contagious                                                               
diseases  of  the scalp  and  want  practitioners who  recognizes                                                               
these issues.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
She agreed  with Ms. Canady's  testimony that there is  no formal                                                               
training in  Alaska to teach  braiding and instruction  on safety                                                               
and sanitation. She  shared her preference to allow  the board to                                                               
adopt regulations to demonstrate  that safety standards are being                                                               
met, similar to  how it is addressed  for non-chemical barbering.                                                               
Addressing an  earlier question, she opined  that current schools                                                               
throughout  the  state  could  easily  adopt  new  curriculum  to                                                               
address these new licenses.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She  stated   support  for  eliminating  the   reference  to  DEC                                                               
inspections  because they  haven't happened  since July  of 2015.                                                               
That is what forced the  board to allow self-certification. Under                                                               
the  current  process, the  applicant  submits  a notarized  form                                                               
stating that  they meet the  DEC safety regulations.  She pointed                                                               
out  that self-certification  is not  compliant with  statute and                                                               
exposes the state to a potential lawsuit.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The bill  also protects  employees by requiring  a shop  owner to                                                               
display their  current license.  She noted there  is a  letter of                                                               
support  in the  packets from  a shop  owner who  doesn't believe                                                               
their employees  should be penalized  if the owner  allowed their                                                               
license to  lapse. With regard  to volunteers at  schools, fairs,                                                               
and  church carnivals  that manipulate  hair  for a  fee and  not                                                               
charity, she said those operations  fall outside the statute. She                                                               
stated support amending the bill to correct that.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  JABAAY  suggested adding  a  provision  to grandfather  nail                                                               
technicians so  they don't have  to prove  additional educational                                                               
hours. This was an unintended  consequence of House Bill 131 that                                                               
was  enacted in  January  2016. It  affects  994 technicians  who                                                               
could lose their livelihood by 2019 if the amendment isn't made.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
She  highlighted  that the  board  is  receipt supported  and  is                                                               
consistently operating  in the black.  She expects it to  carry a                                                               
zero general fund fiscal note.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO noted that the bill  has a fiscal note, so it will                                                               
go to the  Finance Committee. She expressed  appreciation for the                                                               
information that the  35 hours of instruction doesn't  have to do                                                               
with  non-chemical barbering.  The  board will  decide the  hours                                                               
required for that training.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:44:05 PM                                                                                                                    
KEVIN  MCKINLEY,  Chair,  Board   of  Barbers  and  Hairdressers,                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, said the board  agrees with the testimony from                                                               
Ms.  Canady  and  Ms.  Jabaay  on SSSB  4.  He  agreed  with  the                                                               
provision to remove the requirement  for DEC inspections from the                                                               
statutes, and  opined that 35  hours of training isn't  much time                                                               
when the  curriculum is split  into safety, sanitation,  and skin                                                               
conditions, and then the actual hair braiding.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He also stated support for  amending the bill to grandfather nail                                                               
technicians  from  House Bill  131  and  addressing braiders  who                                                               
volunteer their services.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES  asked  Ms.  Jabaay   if  she  supports  treating                                                               
instruction  for  hair  braiders  the same  as  for  non-chemical                                                               
barbering.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. JABAAY said her personal preference  is to allow the Board to                                                               
adopt  regulations  governing  hours of  instruction  instead  of                                                               
through the legislative process.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES  suggested getting the sponsor's  thoughts on that                                                               
recommendation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:48:59 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVE COLESON, representing himself,  Kenai, Alaska, stated he has                                                               
been  a licensed  barber  in  Alaska since  1985  and a  licensed                                                               
instructor since 1992.  He talked about the injustice  to the men                                                               
and  women of  Alaska because  the old-fashioned  barbershops are                                                               
disappearing. Forcing  students to learn how  to perform chemical                                                               
services is  unnecessary for those  who want  to be a  plain old-                                                               
fashioned barber.  He said  the current  mindset won't  keep this                                                               
iconic American tradition alive and  men and women will be deeply                                                               
disappointed  when  they  can't  find  an  iconic  barbershop  to                                                               
introduce  their  son  to  keep   the  monthly  Saturday  haircut                                                               
tradition  alive.  He   shared  that  as  an   instructor  he  is                                                               
approached by a  few people a year who want  to do straight-razor                                                               
shaves and  flat tops, but when  they find they will  be required                                                               
to learn to perform perms and hair coloring they back off.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He expressed hope  for a law that allows  the continued existence                                                               
of barbers that do not have a chemical license.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO clarified that his  letter states support for SSSB
4 because  it addresses individuals who  want to be a  barber but                                                               
not a beautician.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. COLESON agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:51:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  GARDNER  thanked  Mr.  Coleson  for  his  testimony.  It                                                               
reminded her that her grandfather  converted his front porch to a                                                               
barbershop  when he  retired.  "He  spent the  rest  of his  life                                                               
cutting his  neighbors' hair and  giving them a  Saturday morning                                                               
shave."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. COLESON replied  it's an important part of the  fabric of the                                                               
nation.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES  shared  that   her  father-in-law  was  an  old-                                                               
fashioned barber; she envisions a Norman Rockwell painting.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. COLESON  responded, "We're losing  that, and we need  to keep                                                               
it alive."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:52:13 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO  closed public  testimony on SSSB  4 and  held the                                                               
bill in committee.                                                                                                              

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
2017.03.02 Sen. L&C - SB 15 - Summary of Changes Ver. A to Ver. R.pdf SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
DOL&WD Response to Senator's Questions - Budget Charts.pdf SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
DOL&WD Response to Senator's Questions.pdf SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
CSS15 Ver. O.pdf SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 4 Support Documents.pdf SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 4
SB 4 Support Letters.pdf SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 4
SB 15 ver. R.pdf SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 15
SB 40 - Slide Presentation.pdf SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 40
SB 45 - DCCED Response to Senator's Questions.pdf SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 45
SB 51 Bill Version A.PDF SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 51
SB 51 Fiscal Note - DCCED.pdf SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 51
SB 51 Sponsor Statement.PDF SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 51
SB 51 Supporting Documents-Legislative Audit.PDF SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 51
SSSB 4 Fiscal Note - DCCED.pdf SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 4
SSSB 4 Fiscal Note - DEC.pdf SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 4
SSSB4 Sectional Analysis.pdf SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 4
SSSB4 Sponsor Statement.pdf SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 4
SSSB4 Ver. J.PDF SL&C 3/2/2017 1:30:00 PM
SB 4