Legislature(1995 - 1996)

02/06/1995 03:35 PM RES

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 SRES 2/6/95                                                                   
                 HJR 13 ENDORSING ANWR LEASING                                
                                                                              
  CHAIRMAN LEMAN  called the Senate Resources Committee meeting to             
 order at 3:35 p.m. and announced HJR 13 to be up for consideration.           
  He said they would take Senator Lincoln's testimony at this time.            
 She said she would like to wait for a quorum, since she was going             
 to offer an amendment to the bill.                                            
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN announced an at-ease 3:38 - 3:39 p.m. and set HJR 13            
 aside.                                                                        
 SRES 2/6/95                                                                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN said they would set SB 42 aside in the interests of             
 Senator Lincoln who would soon have to leave to attend a funeral              
 and announced HJR 13 to be before the Committee again.                        
                                                                               
 Number 123                                                                    
 SARAH HANNAN, Executive Director, Alaska Environmental Lobby,                 
 opposed CSHJR 13.  She said the economics of the Arctic National              
 Wildlife Refuge are marginal and limited.  At the most optimistic             
 predictions it would only present about 33 billion barrels of oil,            
 she said.                                                                     
                                                                               
 AEL believes there are other ways to reduce our dependence on                 
 foreign oil through endorsing a national energy policy, and opening           
 of the National Petroleum Reserve.  She noted that ANWR contains              
 the breeding grounds for the Porcupine Caribou herd.                          
                                                                               
 MS. HANNAN urged them to use the original version of HJR 13 which             
 articulates and acknowledges the unique and biological things in              
 ANWR and the people who are dependent on the Porcupine herd.                  
                                                                               
 Number 207                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN said her testimony was on Amendment #1.  She said             
 in 1987 there was an international agreement between Canada and the           
 U.S. which established the Porcupine Caribou Technical Committee.             
 They found that there is calving of caribou from June 1 - 10.                 
 Fifty percent of mortality is within that first month.  The nursing           
 period June 11 - 30 is also important in this area.                           
                                                                               
 She said the language in the proposed amendment does not dilute the           
 intent of the resolution to support the development of ANWR.  It              
 recognizes the concern of the people it most directly affects.                
                                                                               
 She noted that there were a number of people who had left their               
 families to fly to town to testify regarding this issue.  She said            
 that Paula Terrel, her legislative aide, was available in Juneau to           
 answer questions.                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 354                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR said he was involved in the first hearings that were           
 held on the original pipeline and all the "experts" that didn't               
 want to build the pipeline told the legislature they were going to            
 destroy the central arctic caribou herd if the pipeline were built.           
 According to the count today, he said, this caribou herd is seven             
 times larger than when the pipeline was built.                                
                                                                               
 SENATOR LINCOLN responded that it's not known how many times that             
 herd would have multiplied without the pipeline, but the intent of            
 the amendment is to ensure that caribou herd continues to be a                
 healthy one.  The amendment does not dilute the resolution; it more           
 fully states the subsistence point of view.                                   
                                                                               
 Number 376                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE MIKE NAVARRE, sponsor, commented that for the first            
 time in our history our Congressional delegation is well suited to            
 promote Alaska's interests.  Also, the trade deficit is continuing            
 to grow and the import of oil contributes greatly to it.  Domestic            
 production is at a 40-year low and ANWR has the highest potential             
 of anywhere on the North American continent for hydrocarbon                   
 production.  He did not have any problem with the proposed                    
 amendment.  It is an issue that will be raised at the national                
 level whether it's referenced in the resolution or not.                       
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE NAVARRE explained that there were numerous reports,            
 studies, environmental impact statements, etc. that would have to             
 be made before any development takes place.                                   
                                                                               
 Number 436                                                                    
                                                                               
 BEVERLY WARD, ARCO Alaska, supported CSHJR 13.  ARCO's experience             
 with the Alaska oil fields has given them a thorough understanding            
 of the local environmental requirements and convinces them that the           
 ANWR can be explored and developed without causing harm to the                
 health and viability of the Refuge ecosystem, she said.  Technology           
 has advanced significantly since the original development of the              
 oil field in the Arctic.  Existence of productive and abundant                
 populations of birds and caribou throughout all the North Slope oil           
 fields is evidence of ARCO's ability to be good neighbors with all            
 current land users.                                                           
                                                                               
 Number 462                                                                    
 KEITH BURKE, The Alliance, said it is an organization of support              
 industries and is a major employer in rural Alaska.  They have no             
 objection to the amendment and encouraged passage of CSHJR 13.                
                                                                               
 MARILYN CROCKET, AOGA, supported CSHJR 13, because allowing oil and           
 gas exploration, development, and production on the ANWR coastal              
 plain would enhance national energy security, provide income for              
 both federal and state governments, and would generate jobs and               
 business opportunities for Alaskans, as well as residents in all 50           
 states.                                                                       
                                                                               
 MARY SOLOMON, Fort Yukon, said preserving the Porcupine Caribou               
 herd and its calving grounds was very important and urged adopting            
 amendment #1 of CSHJR 13.  She said the herd was needed to fulfill            
 the nourishment, spiritual, and cultural needs of her people.                 
                                                                               
 Number 518                                                                    
                                                                               
 SARAH JAMES, Arctic Village, said for as long as she could remember           
 they have tried to protect the Porcupine Caribou herd.  Her                   
 ancestors told her to respect the herd and said if they took care             
 of it, it would take care of them.  She said they are trying to               
 cooperate and be reasonable and this is a reasonable request.                 
                                                                               
 TERRY HERMACH, Valdez, opposed drilling in ANWR.  He asked them to            
 look forward to Alaska in 100 or 200 years and see what rapid                 
 development there would be.  There is increased pressure everywhere           
 and we need our park land protected, he said.  It will no longer be           
 wilderness once drilling begins.                                              
                                                                               
 Number 581                                                                    
                                                                               
 DAVID VAN DEN BERG, Fairbanks, opposed CSHJR 13.  He said the                 
 current fiscal crisis was not going to go away.                               
                                                                               
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 He thought the reason for this resolution was to create some                  
 revenue.  He commented that there was no mention of the Porcupine             
 Caribou herd and there are no stipulations to benefit Alaska.                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR HALFORD asked him when was the last time he was on the                
 coastal plain.  He answered, "last summer."                                   
                                                                               
 Number 563                                                                    
                                                                               
 ORVILLE HUNTINGTON, wildlife biologist, supported Amendment #1.               
 Without it, their (native) human rights and their religious freedom           
 to practice subsistence was being violated.                                   
                                                                               
 Number 555                                                                    
 ERNEST ERICK opposed CSHJR 13.  He wanted the land and animals to             
 be protected, because he eats the animals and that is part of his             
 life.  The people who develop the land don't eat the animals and              
 they need some protection.                                                    
                                                                               
 ISAAC TRITT said the Porcupine Caribou herd needed permanent                  
 protection.                                                                   
                                                                               
 PATRICIA SALMON said their lifestyle is in jeopardy if wildlife is            
 not protected.  Her people depend on the land and wild animals.               
                                                                               
 Number 485                                                                    
                                                                               
 Amendment #1 was not moved by any Committee member.                           
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR moved to pass CSHJR 13 with individual                         
 recommendations.  There were no objections and it was so ordered.             

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