Legislature(2015 - 2016)BUTROVICH 205

03/31/2016 09:00 AM STATE AFFAIRS

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SB 194 LAO/HMONG VETERAN DRIVER'S LIC. & ID CARD TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 171 DOA PAYMENTS; REPEAL OTHER DOA DUTIES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 144 RELOCATION ASSISTANCE FOR FED. PROJ/PROG TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 144 Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
        SB 144-RELOCATION ASSISTANCE FOR FED. PROJ/PROG                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:02:13 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STOLTZE  announced the  consideration of  SB 144.  He noted                                                               
that  the  bill  was  previously heard  in  committee.  He  asked                                                               
Heather  Fair from  the Alaska  Department of  Transportation and                                                               
Public Facilities  (DOT) if she  recalled the questions  posed to                                                               
her regarding issues from past DOT projects.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:02:30 AM                                                                                                                    
HEATHER  FAIR, State  Right-of-Way  Chief,  Alaska Department  of                                                               
Transportation  and  Public  Facilities  (DOT),  Juneau,  Alaska,                                                               
noted  that   DOT  had  submitted   a  response  letter   to  the                                                               
committee's  questions that  were posed  on March  17. She  noted                                                               
that the committee asked  numerous questions regarding historical                                                               
right-of-way   acquisitions  that   may  have   impacted  Alaskan                                                               
families  and   businesses.  She   detailed  that  some   of  the                                                               
information was specific  to relocations in the  Eagle River area                                                               
[circa late 1980s].  She noted that SB 144  focuses on relocation                                                               
assistance rather  than acquisition. She summarized  that some of                                                               
the challenges DOT faced were due to changing economic times.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE said the question posed  to DOT was an example that                                                               
occurred  during the  state's last  major  economic downturn.  He                                                               
said he was not trying to say that  the state was going to have a                                                               
downturn, but  admitted that a  lot of the indicators  signal the                                                               
possibility.  He  explained that  there  was  a major  federally-                                                               
funded state-participatory project in Eagle  River at a time when                                                               
there was an  economic downturn. The majority  of property owners                                                               
had negative equity  in their property and DOT  was innovative in                                                               
trying  to  assist  them.  Many   of  the  property  owners  were                                                               
relocated to other economically  distressed, but physically sound                                                               
homes. He specified  that the ability to relocate  to other homes                                                               
was a mechanism that helped. He  opined that the example he posed                                                               
was a dynamic that could possibly  occur again due to a right-of-                                                               
way acquisition through  eminent domain. He asked Ms.  Fair if he                                                               
had left anything out from the Eagle River situation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:04:45 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. FAIR  answered no. She  said she believed that  Chair Stoltze                                                               
covered the situation well.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STOLTZE noted that the  committee asked DOT about the Alano                                                               
Club. He  detailed that the  Alano Club was a  civic organization                                                               
that was involuntarily  moved and the club found  themselves in a                                                               
similar situation regarding the cost  of a new building. He noted                                                               
that the Alano  Club had taken pride in  eschewing all government                                                               
funding.  He  asked  Ms.  Fair  if  she  could  share  additional                                                               
information on the Alano Club.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. FAIR explained that DOT  did not have specific information on                                                               
the  Alano Club  due  to  the length  of  time  that passed.  She                                                               
concurred that the  Alano Club was a  community organization that                                                               
needed to  be relocated due  to a  project. She pointed  out that                                                               
the  Alano  Club  was  an  example  that  dealt  mostly  with  an                                                               
acquisition at  a price  differential between  what was  paid for                                                               
their property  and an acceptable  substitute property  that they                                                               
could  acquire. She  pointed out  that  SB 144  assists in  price                                                               
differentials  and the  new federal  rules provide  for a  larger                                                               
differential  between what  was paid  for the  property that  DOT                                                               
acquires and  the new piece  of property the owner  acquires. She                                                               
reiterated that DOT was asking for  the state to authorize DOT to                                                               
pay the higher maximums to Alaskan families and businesses.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE  explained that  Alano  Club  was ultimately  made                                                               
whole through assistance  in the capital budget  rather than from                                                               
DOT. He  asked Ms. Fair to  verify that SB 144  has the mechanics                                                               
to assist on a relocation.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:06:46 AM                                                                                                                    
MS.  FAIR  answered  correct.  She  detailed  that  DOT  has  new                                                               
maximums  and   more  available   agreements  with   its  funding                                                               
partners.  She said  DOT tries  to  find innovative  ways to  get                                                               
federal   participation  for   higher  unexpected   amounts.  She                                                               
summarized that DOT works on  a case-by-case basis in addition to                                                               
working closely  with its funding  partners to assist so  that no                                                               
one is in a worse position due to involuntarily relocation.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  noted that  Section 6 in  SB 144  makes the                                                               
act  retroactive  to October  1,  2014.  He  asked how  much  the                                                               
retroactive  act  would cost  the  state  and  who would  be  the                                                               
recipients of any retroactive payments.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. FAIR  concurred that  SB 144  has a  retroactivity provision.                                                               
She explained  that only  a handful of  affected parties  to date                                                               
would be  eligible for  potentially higher  amounts based  on the                                                               
new  maximums.  She  detailed  that the  state's  share  for  the                                                               
retroactive  payments were  estimated  to be  about $12,000.  She                                                               
summarized  that  very  few  folks  have  come  into  retroactive                                                               
eligibility.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:08:40 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  if the  October 1,  2014 retroactive                                                               
date was tied to a federal statute.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. FAIR answered yes.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE noted  that the  federal government's  fiscal year                                                               
starts on October 1.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. FAIR answered correct.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI asked  how many  individuals would  receive                                                               
the $12,000.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FAIR replied  that the  retroactive  provision effects  more                                                               
than one party, but she did not know the exact number.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STOLTZE remarked  that  tying  in real-life  circumstances                                                               
makes  a piece  of  legislation  like SB  144  more relevant.  He                                                               
admitted that  he hates  to talk  about economic  depressions and                                                               
people being "upside  down." He thanked DOT  for their indulgence                                                               
and patience with the committee  in fleshing out the legislation.                                                               
He  summarized that  no changes  were made  to the  bill and  the                                                               
committee thoroughly discussed the fiscal note.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:10:16 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL  moved to  report  SB  144, [29-GS2709\A],  from                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations  and attached  fiscal                                                               
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:10:25 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  STOLTZE announced  that without  objection,  SB 144  moves                                                               
from committee.                                                                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 144 DOT Response Letter Answering SSTA Questions Raised - 03-23-16.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 144
SB 144 Email from DOT responding to SSTA questions 03-24-16.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 144
SB 194 Sponsor Statement.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document - Citation, Hmong Special Guerrilla Unit 4-16-14.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document - Hmong Veterans' Naturalization Act of 2000.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document - Letter of Support, Hmong Alaska Community, Inc. 2-24-16.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document - Letter of Support, Hmong Veterans Family of Alaska 3-12-16.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document - Veterans Today Column, The US Abandonment of the Hmong 1-27-10.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 194
SB 194 CS(STA) Work Draft version H - 03-30-16.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document - Letters of Support, Individual Hmong Veterans 2-22-16.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document - Letter of Support, Alaska United States Special Guerilla Unit 3-28-16.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document - Legislative Research Report 3-28-16.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document - Legislation, 114th Congress 1st Session S. 1358.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document - Article, Anchorage Press 11-5-14.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 194
SB 194 Supporting Document - Article, ADN 5-15-14.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 194
SB 171 AHFC Email Regarding State Travel Office Participation 03-23-16.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
SB 171 SSTA Provided Document - Legislative History of Repealed Provision, and 1977 Letter of Intent Regarding University - 03-30-16.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
SB 171 Fiscal Note (unpublished) to CS(STA)H - ACS-TRC - 3-30-16.pdf.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
SB 171 Fiscal Note (unpublished) to CS(STA)H - DOA-DOF 03-29-16.PDF SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
SB 194 Fiscal Note - DOA-DMV 03-25-16.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 194
SB 171 DOA Response to SSTA Question on Pre-Audit of claims 3-30-16.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 171
SB 171 University President Johnsen Travel Letter to SSTA - 03-30-16.pdf SSTA 3/31/2016 9:00:00 AM
SB 171